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for the masses headline edition july 8

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the army air force's has announced that

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a flying disc has been found and

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is now in the possession of the army if

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the game is rigged

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change the game game changer

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i occasionally think how quickly our

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differences worldwide

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would vanish if we were facing an alien

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from outside this world

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this is fade to black with your host

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jimmy church

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on the game changer radio network and

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i need your help to get to the year

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1985.

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bespoke radio

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for the

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masses uh yeah man how you doing how you

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today's monday april 19th 2021

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110 days into the new year only 255 days

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we are live from a bunker a bunker

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somewhere in the middle of nowhere

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a total undisclosed location

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but it is beautiful

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i would like to welcome everybody

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listening all around the world all

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across the united states

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hither and tither to and fro back and

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forth up and down east and west north

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far and near this is fade to black for

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kjcr the game changer network and kgra

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the planets i

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am your host jimmy church what is

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cracking everybody how you doing

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how you doing all right

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fired up got a great week coming up

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starts with tonight's john greenwald of

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the black vault

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recent amazing interview with former cia

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about that those images too and all the

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work that

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john is out there doing daily with the

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to the bottom of everything the truth

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okay so that is tonight

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tomorrow night right here aaron

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time a life of contact not only with her

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and her family we're going to go through

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all of that tomorrow night with aaron

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very excited about that

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show tomorrow night and then wednesday

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what a great week coming up here on fade

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all right now um oh i wanted to say i

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watched this is something i didn't know

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entire series documentary series

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on netflix about

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the biggest art heist in the world uh

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still unsolved

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500 million dollars worth of artwork it

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and a couple of rembrandts yeah a

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phew man 13 pieces of artwork

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that sort of thing i do

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and uh so check it out i think it's

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robbery the biggest rob the great heist

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the great biggest art heist

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anyway it's on netflix you'll see it

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it's trending

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it's new it's a new release go and check

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somebody here will post in twitter the

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actual name of it

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but uh it's really cool it's really

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that's a nail biter yeah yeah it's

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okay uh where am i

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crystal skulls

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over there but

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there they are they're zing vey and uh

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sitting right over there and if you want

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your next crystal skull

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your first crystal skull go to carolyn

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ford carolyn ford's website is einstein

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the crystalskull.com

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use the promo code jimmy that's it

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jimmy j i m ny 10 off of your order

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today go and get your next crystal skull

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from carolyn ford when you do tell her i

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said hi all right use that promo code

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jimmy

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i'm going to be at the ufo mega cons

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coming up june 6th through the 12th

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in laughlin nevada i want you to come

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hang out with us because it's all in

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person it's real

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it's live that's right real human beings

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and it's happening this june 2021.

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all right and head over to

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jimmychurchradio.com there is a link

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it's right there you'll see it

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scroll down it says ufo megacon you

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can't miss it click on that go and get

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your tickets

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we will see you in laughlin nevada for a

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look at all of the presenters that

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is a great lineup and uh oh later on

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yeah i'm just gonna tell you thursday

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i've got richard dolan doing a drive-by

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to say hello to all the fader knots and

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he's gonna be at ufo megacon

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goldberg is gonna be there uh it is an

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at the conference and uh so it's uh

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oh you got my eyeball wow that's pretty

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that's a that's one that you save right

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that's one that you save

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that's a good one kevin oh man i'm gonna

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save it because i'll never go back

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check it out again it gets lost in the

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let's get to the breaking news

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scientists

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say a forgotten coffee

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that's right a forgotten coffee

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future proof the drink against climate

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stenophila a rare wild coffee that

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high quality uh arabica coffee but grows

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that by 2050 about half of land use for

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will be unproductive so good news

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coffee will be here all right that's all

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the aerial exploration of mars has begun

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that ingenuity had hit its marks

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while the perseverance rover captured

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stunning video

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of the historic flight on mars now

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the video's cool but there's like two

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fired up the blades are going and then

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happy birthday to the one and only tim

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curry tim curry today

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is 75 years old holy crap

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james franco today is 43 and i know what

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what has james done well you know what

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he's done a lot

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63 is incredible james franco

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makes the list hayden christensen

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that wasn't his best movies

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now now shattered glass

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and if you haven't seen it go check it

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out kate hudson

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today is 42. wow

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producer eddie kramer one of the

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greatest of all time today

292
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is 79 of course he produced jimi hendrix

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led zeppelin

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kiss rolling stones david bowie

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yeah eddie kramer today is 79.

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our dead guy's birthday today is i need

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dudley moore 1935-2002 died at the age

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of 66.

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dudley's career as a comedy film actor

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was marked by hit hollywood films like

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foul play 10

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and arthur for arthur he was nominated

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for an academy award for best actor

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but he won a golden globe award for that

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and he received a second golden globe

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for his performance

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in mickey and maude in 1984.

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it was in april 1997 after spending five

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days in a new york hospital

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dudley was informed that he had calcium

311
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deposits in his brain

312
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in september 1997 he underwent quadruple

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coronary artery bypass surgery

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and then he suffered four strokes

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it was incredible dudley died on the

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morning of march

317
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27 2002 as the result of pneumonia

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and immobility caused by palsy

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in plainfield new jersey at the age of

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just

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66. happy birthday dudley

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on this day in history 1995

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a day we'll never forget a massive truck

324
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bomb explodes outside the alfred p

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murrah federal building in oklahoma city

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the blast collapsed the north face of

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the nine-story building

328
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instantly killing more than 100 people

329
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here's your fader fact all right

330
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there have been actual scientific

331
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studies comparing apples and oranges

332
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in order to prove that you can in fact

333
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compare apples and oranges

334
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the results of the studies show that you

335
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cannot

336
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compare apples and oranges

337
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that's right and that is your fader fact

338
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now it's time for me to hit this river

339
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just incredible

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[Music]

341
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rivermoonwellness.com

342
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i like my coffee doc i do

343
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i like my coffee duck

344
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all right tonight very special guest

345
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john greenwald of the black vault joins

346
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us

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we're going to be talking about his

348
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recent interview with former ci director

349
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james woolsey

350
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and also those recent

351
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u.s navy videos and images and

352
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what has john found out all right all

353
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right tomorrow night aaron montgomery is

354
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here for the first time

355
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and um what's really funny should i say

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this should i

357
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should i give a little antidote and

358
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anecdote

359
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last month i was out uh in los angeles

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with a

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group of friends yvonne smith and uh

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terry lovelace and

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and uh and a few other friends right

364
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well at the table was aaron montgomery

365
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yeah she was right there and i

366
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think i was introduced to her but i

367
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didn't get a chance to talk to her and

368
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she reminded me last week she goes jimmy

369
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we met

370
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right that's right and i didn't get a

371
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chance to talk to her

372
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how great is that that she is

373
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now on the show with us and now we do

374
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get to have a conversation a

375
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conversation tomorrow night for the

376
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first time

377
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it was really funny how um

378
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how her appearance on the show tomorrow

379
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and how that was set

380
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up was not related to that

381
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and she reminded me it's so cool so

382
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tomorrow night we'll have a laugh

383
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about that but that's tomorrow night

384
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erin montgomery wednesday night

385
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dr stephen greer is here um

386
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as most of you know he did a recent live

387
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stream

388
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and uh and talked about a few things

389
00:19:33,830 --> 00:19:32,960
that are very important one of those is

390
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the uh

391
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the weapons in space treaty uh we're

392
00:19:40,150 --> 00:19:38,480
gonna be talking about that on wednesday

393
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night we're going to talk about his new

394
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film

395
00:19:44,310 --> 00:19:42,960
project on wednesday night we're going

396
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to talk about the uap

397
00:19:48,070 --> 00:19:46,720
task force report on wednesday night

398
00:19:50,390 --> 00:19:48,080
lots to cover

399
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with dr greer that's all going down

400
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wednesday thursday

401
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of course there's another fader night

402
00:19:57,430 --> 00:19:55,520
with open lines

403
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all night long tonight john greenwald

404
00:20:03,350 --> 00:19:58,640
he'll be with us

405
00:20:12,630 --> 00:20:05,110
now i really need this coffee tonight

406
00:20:12,640 --> 00:20:16,630
i have no patience these days

407
00:20:24,470 --> 00:20:20,310
i really don't i've got no patience

408
00:20:28,230 --> 00:20:24,480
and reading through

409
00:20:31,350 --> 00:20:28,240
social media and the comments out there

410
00:20:33,350 --> 00:20:31,360
about these videos by depending i've

411
00:20:33,750 --> 00:20:33,360
just got no patience and i can't hold

412
00:20:35,990 --> 00:20:33,760
back

413
00:20:38,149 --> 00:20:36,000
anymore i just got zero patience i'm

414
00:20:40,390 --> 00:20:38,159
getting old i'm getting cranky

415
00:20:42,149 --> 00:20:40,400
and i warned everybody over the years

416
00:20:43,909 --> 00:20:42,159
the day's going to come

417
00:20:46,310 --> 00:20:43,919
or i'm just going to snap i'm just going

418
00:20:49,510 --> 00:20:46,320
to change i'm going to go from being

419
00:20:50,950 --> 00:20:49,520
young hip and cool to the old cranky

420
00:20:52,549 --> 00:20:50,960
dude

421
00:20:54,710 --> 00:20:52,559
and that's it that now i can't hold get

422
00:20:58,149 --> 00:20:54,720
off my lawn right i just

423
00:21:01,430 --> 00:20:58,159
i can't i can't help myself

424
00:21:04,310 --> 00:21:01,440
and i found myself responding

425
00:21:05,190 --> 00:21:04,320
in a way that i never do in social media

426
00:21:07,669 --> 00:21:05,200
with uh

427
00:21:08,310 --> 00:21:07,679
a few of these uh people out there and

428
00:21:13,590 --> 00:21:08,320
and

429
00:21:16,549 --> 00:21:13,600
like man whoa

430
00:21:17,750 --> 00:21:16,559
whoa whoa church where is this coming

431
00:21:21,110 --> 00:21:17,760
from

432
00:21:22,390 --> 00:21:21,120
i just got zero patience i've got zero

433
00:21:27,590 --> 00:21:22,400
patience

434
00:21:35,110 --> 00:21:31,750
i now read these comments that say

435
00:21:35,590 --> 00:21:35,120
things like the pentagon admits they

436
00:21:38,070 --> 00:21:35,600
have

437
00:21:39,190 --> 00:21:38,080
videoed ufos right and that's what

438
00:21:41,590 --> 00:21:39,200
people are posting

439
00:21:43,510 --> 00:21:41,600
and then they'll post a link to some

440
00:21:47,190 --> 00:21:43,520
media outlet out there that's

441
00:21:49,669 --> 00:21:47,200
reporting on this and this whole thing

442
00:21:51,350 --> 00:21:49,679
has been blown way out of proportion

443
00:21:56,149 --> 00:21:51,360
completely out of whack

444
00:21:58,630 --> 00:21:56,159
completely now i understand

445
00:22:00,070 --> 00:21:58,640
everybody's hopes and dreams that now

446
00:22:02,070 --> 00:22:00,080
the pentagon is our friend the u.s

447
00:22:03,990 --> 00:22:02,080
navy's our friend disclosure

448
00:22:06,149 --> 00:22:04,000
coming out of washington d.c they're

449
00:22:08,070 --> 00:22:06,159
buddying up with us and we should all be

450
00:22:09,909 --> 00:22:08,080
overjoyed all right i get that

451
00:22:11,590 --> 00:22:09,919
and if that's where you're coming from i

452
00:22:14,789 --> 00:22:11,600
appreciate that too

453
00:22:18,390 --> 00:22:14,799
i really do okay but

454
00:22:19,190 --> 00:22:18,400
my response to all of this um i've been

455
00:22:22,390 --> 00:22:19,200
posting

456
00:22:25,510 --> 00:22:22,400
an excellent article by tyler rogoway

457
00:22:27,350 --> 00:22:25,520
of uh the war zone and

458
00:22:29,350 --> 00:22:27,360
the article is amazing and it's about

459
00:22:30,390 --> 00:22:29,360
the recent drone activity around the us

460
00:22:32,710 --> 00:22:30,400
navy

461
00:22:33,590 --> 00:22:32,720
and and my comments were you know some

462
00:22:36,789 --> 00:22:33,600
say ufo

463
00:22:40,070 --> 00:22:36,799
okay i say drones all right that's fine

464
00:22:42,549 --> 00:22:40,080
and my comments were tomato tomato okay

465
00:22:43,350 --> 00:22:42,559
right well you be the judge it doesn't

466
00:22:46,390 --> 00:22:43,360
matter to me

467
00:22:50,310 --> 00:22:46,400
what you think you see it

468
00:22:52,870 --> 00:22:50,320
it doesn't matter right or

469
00:22:53,990 --> 00:22:52,880
or what you think things are that

470
00:22:56,230 --> 00:22:54,000
doesn't matter to me either

471
00:22:57,909 --> 00:22:56,240
people are gonna see what they see and

472
00:22:59,029 --> 00:22:57,919
they're going to draw their own

473
00:23:01,510 --> 00:22:59,039
conclusions

474
00:23:03,270 --> 00:23:01,520
that's the way of the world it's the way

475
00:23:05,270 --> 00:23:03,280
it is i talk about it all the time

476
00:23:06,630 --> 00:23:05,280
got a car accident happens you've got 10

477
00:23:07,590 --> 00:23:06,640
witnesses you've got 10 different

478
00:23:09,669 --> 00:23:07,600
stories

479
00:23:11,510 --> 00:23:09,679
all right that's just the way to the car

480
00:23:14,630 --> 00:23:11,520
was red no the car was blue

481
00:23:16,470 --> 00:23:14,640
i thought it was yellow what right

482
00:23:17,590 --> 00:23:16,480
what do you do well if people are going

483
00:23:18,710 --> 00:23:17,600
to see what they're going to see they're

484
00:23:20,789 --> 00:23:18,720
going to remember they're going to do

485
00:23:24,310 --> 00:23:20,799
that and they draw their own conclusion

486
00:23:28,710 --> 00:23:24,320
that's just the way the world i get that

487
00:23:36,710 --> 00:23:32,070
there are flashing aircraft

488
00:23:40,710 --> 00:23:36,720
lights on this object

489
00:23:44,390 --> 00:23:43,669
that's it but nobody wants to see that

490
00:23:46,870 --> 00:23:44,400
nobody wants

491
00:23:48,470 --> 00:23:46,880
no you know what they most aren't even

492
00:23:50,149 --> 00:23:48,480
looking at the video they don't even see

493
00:23:51,269 --> 00:23:50,159
the flashing lights they don't even

494
00:23:54,789 --> 00:23:51,279
realize that it's an

495
00:23:55,669 --> 00:23:54,799
aircraft they don't they see the

496
00:23:59,029 --> 00:23:55,679
headline

497
00:24:02,149 --> 00:23:59,039
flying pyramids they see abc

498
00:24:04,149 --> 00:24:02,159
nbc cbs fox whatever

499
00:24:05,750 --> 00:24:04,159
you know news organizations around the

500
00:24:06,950 --> 00:24:05,760
world from the united kingdom and

501
00:24:09,350 --> 00:24:06,960
australia

502
00:24:10,789 --> 00:24:09,360
and you know they're posting this and

503
00:24:13,830 --> 00:24:10,799
and they see the headline

504
00:24:14,470 --> 00:24:13,840
and they just assume that that's what it

505
00:24:17,230 --> 00:24:14,480
is

506
00:24:19,669 --> 00:24:17,240
that the navy has admitted to filming

507
00:24:23,750 --> 00:24:19,679
ufos

508
00:24:25,750 --> 00:24:23,760
that

509
00:24:27,269 --> 00:24:25,760
the reality of the situation is

510
00:24:29,830 --> 00:24:27,279
different now there is

511
00:24:31,110 --> 00:24:29,840
also an excellent video out there by

512
00:24:32,870 --> 00:24:31,120
tony west

513
00:24:34,789 --> 00:24:32,880
now it doesn't matter what your opinion

514
00:24:37,510 --> 00:24:34,799
is of tony i don't care

515
00:24:38,630 --> 00:24:37,520
just watch the video go and watch the

516
00:24:42,390 --> 00:24:38,640
video

517
00:24:44,710 --> 00:24:42,400
read tyler's article right

518
00:24:45,430 --> 00:24:44,720
gather the evidence that is out there

519
00:24:47,590 --> 00:24:45,440
that is all

520
00:24:49,350 --> 00:24:47,600
that's all that i'm asking it's not a

521
00:24:51,350 --> 00:24:49,360
big deal

522
00:24:53,669 --> 00:24:51,360
and i would think that everyone right

523
00:24:55,430 --> 00:24:53,679
now would be interested

524
00:24:57,510 --> 00:24:55,440
in everything that is available right

525
00:24:59,510 --> 00:24:57,520
now there's a lot of stuff there's a lot

526
00:25:04,390 --> 00:24:59,520
of opinions on both sides

527
00:25:09,669 --> 00:25:04,400
go and read it but this is the deal

528
00:25:14,310 --> 00:25:09,679
for me the bigger question

529
00:25:19,430 --> 00:25:14,320
for all of us to think about

530
00:25:24,549 --> 00:25:19,440
is this why is the pentagon

531
00:25:30,470 --> 00:25:27,590
they know it's not ufos or anything from

532
00:25:32,230 --> 00:25:30,480
out there they know the pentagon knows

533
00:25:35,430 --> 00:25:32,240
this

534
00:25:37,510 --> 00:25:35,440
and they also know that the media is

535
00:25:39,669 --> 00:25:37,520
hyping this up because of jeremy

536
00:25:41,269 --> 00:25:39,679
corbell's headlines

537
00:25:42,870 --> 00:25:41,279
but the pentagon doesn't care they're

538
00:25:44,310 --> 00:25:42,880
not coming back they're not responding

539
00:25:47,669 --> 00:25:44,320
they're not replying they're not

540
00:25:52,710 --> 00:25:47,679
updating they're not doing anything they

541
00:25:56,070 --> 00:25:52,720
don't care and you have to ask yourself

542
00:25:58,630 --> 00:25:56,080
why why

543
00:26:00,149 --> 00:25:58,640
i i just don't get it i would have

544
00:26:02,070 --> 00:26:00,159
thought

545
00:26:03,750 --> 00:26:02,080
that right now if the pentagon is our

546
00:26:04,870 --> 00:26:03,760
friend and they really want to do the

547
00:26:06,630 --> 00:26:04,880
right thing

548
00:26:09,830 --> 00:26:06,640
they would see the headlines out there

549
00:26:12,070 --> 00:26:09,840
and they would respond back

550
00:26:14,390 --> 00:26:12,080
never said it was ufos we never said it

551
00:26:15,830 --> 00:26:14,400
was aliens we never said it was uaps we

552
00:26:19,750 --> 00:26:15,840
never said anything

553
00:26:21,110 --> 00:26:19,760
we just said we shot a video the video

554
00:26:23,909 --> 00:26:21,120
is real

555
00:26:25,510 --> 00:26:23,919
okay but it's not anything not of this

556
00:26:28,630 --> 00:26:25,520
earth

557
00:26:31,669 --> 00:26:28,640
it's a drone it may be

558
00:26:35,029 --> 00:26:31,679
ours it may be russia's it may be

559
00:26:36,870 --> 00:26:35,039
israel's it might be north korea's

560
00:26:39,269 --> 00:26:36,880
all right but it's just a drone it's got

561
00:26:42,070 --> 00:26:39,279
aircraft flashing lights on it people

562
00:26:42,870 --> 00:26:42,080
all right now it does the pentagon want

563
00:26:46,310 --> 00:26:42,880
to keep the

564
00:26:47,029 --> 00:26:46,320
the flames burning with this because of

565
00:26:49,190 --> 00:26:47,039
the uap

566
00:26:51,269 --> 00:26:49,200
task force and the report that's coming

567
00:26:52,870 --> 00:26:51,279
up and they got to keep the senate on

568
00:26:55,909 --> 00:26:52,880
their toes and there's budget

569
00:26:57,510 --> 00:26:55,919
uh budgetary concerns and money that is

570
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about to change hands yeah

571
00:27:01,909 --> 00:27:01,039
okay i can see that but they also know

572
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that people are

573
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freaking out right now on this planet

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thinking that

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there are flying pyramids over

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our navy uh uh

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off the coast of southern california

578
00:27:21,190 --> 00:27:17,440
that's the part where i'm just confused

579
00:27:24,549 --> 00:27:21,200
and the navy seems to be okay with it

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00:27:26,470 --> 00:27:24,559
you have to ask why

581
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that's a strange way to handle

582
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disclosure don't you think

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so i'm gonna stick to my guns i'm gonna

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stick to my guns

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my eyes uh are never wrong

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never never we will see tonight's guest

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is

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john greenwald of the black vault now he

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just

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recently and it's a great get

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he just recently interviewed former ci

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director james woolsey

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and we're gonna go through all of that

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tonight um

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and john's opinion uh it's an excellent

596
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interview you can go over to the black

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vault

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and and check out the links to that and

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go watch

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uh the interview for yourself it's

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amazing and listen to it

602
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there's that but also john has been back

603
00:28:15,590 --> 00:28:13,919
just grinding on the pentagon about

604
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these videos and about a lot of other

605
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things so we're going to be going

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through

607
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all of that tonight and what does john

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think

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all right now john's a very responsible

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journalist he's out there fighting for

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us

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every single day but he's also got

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opinions

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and i'm going to get to all of those

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tonight with john greenwald

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of the black vault i want to remind

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everybody tomorrow night

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aaron montgomery is here for the first

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time

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and then wednesday night dr stephen

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greer

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thursday's another fader night with open

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lines all night long i am your host

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jimmy church

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this is fade to black on the game

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break with tonight's guests the one and

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john greenwald stay with me i'll be

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right back

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what's up i'm chris what up this is

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[Music]

748
00:34:13,909 --> 00:34:12,320
all right welcome back fade to black i

749
00:34:16,149 --> 00:34:13,919
am your host jimmy church tonight

750
00:34:17,430 --> 00:34:16,159
john greenwald we're going to be

751
00:34:19,430 --> 00:34:17,440
discussing his recent

752
00:34:20,629 --> 00:34:19,440
interview with former ci director james

753
00:34:22,710 --> 00:34:20,639
woolsey

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00:34:24,069 --> 00:34:22,720
and john's recent confirmation from the

755
00:34:27,109 --> 00:34:24,079
pentagon about the latest

756
00:34:29,270 --> 00:34:27,119
u.s navy video and images and all of the

757
00:34:29,909 --> 00:34:29,280
other late-breaking ufo news from around

758
00:34:31,990 --> 00:34:29,919
the world

759
00:34:33,750 --> 00:34:32,000
and i do this every time but i've i've

760
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just got to

761
00:34:36,790 --> 00:34:35,760
needs to be recognized john began

762
00:34:38,470 --> 00:34:36,800
researching

763
00:34:40,629 --> 00:34:38,480
the secret inner workings of the us

764
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government in 1996

765
00:34:46,230 --> 00:34:44,000
at the age of 15. targeting such groups

766
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as the cia the fbi the pentagon the air

767
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force the army navy nsa

768
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and the dia and countless others that's

769
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right they have

770
00:34:58,150 --> 00:34:55,520
john on speed dial that archive

771
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is called the black vault his teenage

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project turned into the largest private

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online collection

774
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anywhere in the world with millions of

775
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pages of material

776
00:35:10,390 --> 00:35:07,520
i just read you know john okay his his

777
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books beyond ufo secrecy 2002's latest

778
00:35:14,069 --> 00:35:11,839
inside the black vault i want to get

779
00:35:15,430 --> 00:35:14,079
straight to this john uh welcome back to

780
00:35:17,190 --> 00:35:15,440
the show how are you doing

781
00:35:18,790 --> 00:35:17,200
i'm good jimmy how are you man it's

782
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always great to hear your voice

783
00:35:22,790 --> 00:35:21,680
but you as well i want to i want to jump

784
00:35:26,550 --> 00:35:22,800
back a couple of weeks

785
00:35:28,069 --> 00:35:26,560
uh you uh you posted

786
00:35:29,589 --> 00:35:28,079
look i'm going to paraphrase here i

787
00:35:31,750 --> 00:35:29,599
don't have the numbers exact

788
00:35:33,270 --> 00:35:31,760
but you said something like i just

789
00:35:37,430 --> 00:35:33,280
uploaded 150

790
00:35:41,910 --> 00:35:40,870
man i mean you know i i just don't know

791
00:35:44,630 --> 00:35:41,920
how you get it done

792
00:35:46,390 --> 00:35:44,640
and i i read that i had to rub my eyes

793
00:35:49,190 --> 00:35:46,400
am i reading this correctly

794
00:35:50,470 --> 00:35:49,200
the numbers just keep going up with your

795
00:35:53,510 --> 00:35:50,480
pages of material

796
00:35:55,510 --> 00:35:53,520
and by large amounts uh

797
00:35:57,349 --> 00:35:55,520
it is yeah it's getting insane and here

798
00:35:58,630 --> 00:35:57,359
i haven't even mentioned this yet but in

799
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the coming weeks

800
00:36:05,190 --> 00:36:02,000
maybe even more so months

801
00:36:07,270 --> 00:36:05,200
there is just shy of 500

802
00:36:08,310 --> 00:36:07,280
000 additional pages that are going to

803
00:36:10,710 --> 00:36:08,320
go online

804
00:36:13,510 --> 00:36:10,720
so another researcher of mine who i've

805
00:36:15,589 --> 00:36:13,520
credited his name is corey newman

806
00:36:16,870 --> 00:36:15,599
we kind of met up and he has done an

807
00:36:19,829 --> 00:36:16,880
amazing job

808
00:36:20,710 --> 00:36:19,839
archiving air force history but he had

809
00:36:22,550 --> 00:36:20,720
nowhere to put it

810
00:36:24,630 --> 00:36:22,560
and so i said i will gladly give it a

811
00:36:26,470 --> 00:36:24,640
home we've teamed up we've been

812
00:36:28,390 --> 00:36:26,480
he's been digitizing i've been kind of

813
00:36:29,030 --> 00:36:28,400
scanning it and and doing what's called

814
00:36:31,430 --> 00:36:29,040
an ocr

815
00:36:33,510 --> 00:36:31,440
process uh but yeah what we've already

816
00:36:34,950 --> 00:36:33,520
put up a couple hundred thousand pages

817
00:36:37,270 --> 00:36:34,960
in the last couple weeks

818
00:36:39,750 --> 00:36:37,280
and there is near a half a million more

819
00:36:42,310 --> 00:36:39,760
so it's a lot of information but

820
00:36:44,310 --> 00:36:42,320
mind-blowing all sorts of stuff from

821
00:36:46,390 --> 00:36:44,320
ufos there's a lot of ufo references

822
00:36:49,589 --> 00:36:46,400
that have never been seen before

823
00:36:51,349 --> 00:36:49,599
all sorts of air force history aircraft

824
00:36:52,710 --> 00:36:51,359
anybody who's interested in that it is

825
00:36:54,390 --> 00:36:52,720
just a field day so

826
00:36:55,990 --> 00:36:54,400
yeah it's uh it's quite busy over here

827
00:36:58,950 --> 00:36:56,000
yeah it's not it and and

828
00:37:00,230 --> 00:36:58,960
and clarify for everybody it's not just

829
00:37:02,470 --> 00:37:00,240
scanning

830
00:37:04,230 --> 00:37:02,480
and putting up a page you have to index

831
00:37:05,750 --> 00:37:04,240
it you have to reference it you're doing

832
00:37:08,310 --> 00:37:05,760
search words

833
00:37:11,030 --> 00:37:08,320
uh right you've got to do all of that

834
00:37:14,390 --> 00:37:11,040
too as well you're just not slapping up

835
00:37:16,310 --> 00:37:14,400
you know uh pdfs no yeah that conversion

836
00:37:18,390 --> 00:37:16,320
process takes quite a while uh more so

837
00:37:19,670 --> 00:37:18,400
just cpu time you know it takes a lot to

838
00:37:21,270 --> 00:37:19,680
process them so

839
00:37:22,950 --> 00:37:21,280
the way that corey has them and the way

840
00:37:25,589 --> 00:37:22,960
the government gives them out a lot of

841
00:37:28,870 --> 00:37:25,599
times is they don't do that which is

842
00:37:30,710 --> 00:37:28,880
a fairly basic process mostly just

843
00:37:32,630 --> 00:37:30,720
taxing on a computer

844
00:37:35,670 --> 00:37:32,640
but it's like they don't want you to be

845
00:37:37,190 --> 00:37:35,680
able to have easy access to this stuff

846
00:37:38,950 --> 00:37:37,200
uh i went through it with the jfk

847
00:37:40,950 --> 00:37:38,960
assassination records and

848
00:37:42,950 --> 00:37:40,960
so what i did was was did that that

849
00:37:43,430 --> 00:37:42,960
conversion uh before they went online

850
00:37:45,430 --> 00:37:43,440
and

851
00:37:47,270 --> 00:37:45,440
uh it's been copied a couple times uh

852
00:37:48,150 --> 00:37:47,280
since then but at the time when it was

853
00:37:50,790 --> 00:37:48,160
dumped

854
00:37:52,470 --> 00:37:50,800
no one could search the material and so

855
00:37:54,069 --> 00:37:52,480
the black vault was able to convert it

856
00:37:55,750 --> 00:37:54,079
into its own search engine

857
00:37:57,750 --> 00:37:55,760
and it would just search the jfk

858
00:37:59,190 --> 00:37:57,760
assassination stuff so there's a lot

859
00:38:00,710 --> 00:37:59,200
that goes into

860
00:38:03,030 --> 00:38:00,720
getting those documents putting them

861
00:38:06,150 --> 00:38:03,040
online and making sure that that

862
00:38:07,430 --> 00:38:06,160
everybody can access them easily because

863
00:38:09,670 --> 00:38:07,440
they're kind of useless when you just

864
00:38:11,030 --> 00:38:09,680
have unsearchable pdfs but when you

865
00:38:12,150 --> 00:38:11,040
start making them searchable put them

866
00:38:13,589 --> 00:38:12,160
into search engines

867
00:38:15,270 --> 00:38:13,599
it makes it a lot more valuable yeah i

868
00:38:17,750 --> 00:38:15,280
remember the old days of the black vault

869
00:38:20,550 --> 00:38:17,760
man i just have to click on a page and

870
00:38:22,550 --> 00:38:20,560
and read it and we didn't have all of

871
00:38:24,069 --> 00:38:22,560
the technology built into your site that

872
00:38:26,150 --> 00:38:24,079
we do today

873
00:38:27,430 --> 00:38:26,160
um but there's something about that

874
00:38:28,790 --> 00:38:27,440
though there's a certain amount of

875
00:38:32,069 --> 00:38:28,800
retention

876
00:38:34,630 --> 00:38:32,079
that you gain from not having all the uh

877
00:38:36,790 --> 00:38:34,640
automation built in you're just now

878
00:38:37,990 --> 00:38:36,800
you're forced into reading the pages

879
00:38:39,750 --> 00:38:38,000
and you don't know what's going to be

880
00:38:40,230 --> 00:38:39,760
there and there's a certain tension to

881
00:38:43,109 --> 00:38:40,240
that

882
00:38:44,069 --> 00:38:43,119
which is pretty cool yeah and i remember

883
00:38:46,069 --> 00:38:44,079
back in the day

884
00:38:48,150 --> 00:38:46,079
i couldn't afford a scanner as you

885
00:38:50,150 --> 00:38:48,160
pointed out i was 15 when i started

886
00:38:51,990 --> 00:38:50,160
and i used to type them in by hand and

887
00:38:53,750 --> 00:38:52,000
and i remember i was a few hundred quite

888
00:38:55,510 --> 00:38:53,760
a few hundred pages in

889
00:38:58,310 --> 00:38:55,520
and i thought that was a lot of material

890
00:39:00,630 --> 00:38:58,320
but typing it in by hand man that was

891
00:39:03,109 --> 00:39:00,640
that was brutal and and i got a flatbed

892
00:39:05,670 --> 00:39:03,119
scanner donated to me from somebody who

893
00:39:07,109 --> 00:39:05,680
had uh seen the site and and then then i

894
00:39:09,270 --> 00:39:07,119
started scanning and

895
00:39:10,950 --> 00:39:09,280
pdfs actually weren't popular i mean now

896
00:39:13,109 --> 00:39:10,960
i'm feeling really old

897
00:39:15,750 --> 00:39:13,119
but pdfs they were around but they just

898
00:39:17,670 --> 00:39:15,760
weren't popular in 1996

899
00:39:18,870 --> 00:39:17,680
so i was putting stuff up and just

900
00:39:21,030 --> 00:39:18,880
images and you would

901
00:39:23,270 --> 00:39:21,040
have to program every single image so

902
00:39:24,870 --> 00:39:23,280
you press next page and it would go and

903
00:39:27,670 --> 00:39:24,880
load the next page and

904
00:39:27,990 --> 00:39:27,680
man it got incredible with the amount of

905
00:39:30,230 --> 00:39:28,000
work

906
00:39:32,069 --> 00:39:30,240
so thankfully pdfs took off because that

907
00:39:33,510 --> 00:39:32,079
made it a lot easier i can't imagine

908
00:39:36,069 --> 00:39:33,520
is so you're sitting there you know

909
00:39:37,270 --> 00:39:36,079
you're 15 16 17 years old you get the

910
00:39:40,310 --> 00:39:37,280
new flatbed

911
00:39:41,109 --> 00:39:40,320
scanner which uh back then was a really

912
00:39:44,310 --> 00:39:41,119
big deal

913
00:39:47,349 --> 00:39:44,320
right yeah uh and it wasn't

914
00:39:50,069 --> 00:39:47,359
usb either right you had those tongue

915
00:39:50,550 --> 00:39:50,079
things going in the back like 900 yeah

916
00:39:55,910 --> 00:39:50,560
right

917
00:39:57,349 --> 00:39:55,920
got a stack of you know 2500 documents

918
00:39:59,349 --> 00:39:57,359
one at a time man

919
00:40:02,150 --> 00:39:59,359
lifting up the lid putting it down

920
00:40:04,790 --> 00:40:02,160
flipping it down hitting scan

921
00:40:07,430 --> 00:40:04,800
yeah that was at the time you're like

922
00:40:08,390 --> 00:40:07,440
wow this is saving a lot of time this is

923
00:40:09,910 --> 00:40:08,400
fantastic

924
00:40:12,470 --> 00:40:09,920
and now you look back and you go oh my

925
00:40:14,550 --> 00:40:12,480
gosh how did i you know why didn't i

926
00:40:16,150 --> 00:40:14,560
tear a rotator cuff just constantly

927
00:40:18,470 --> 00:40:16,160
doing the same motion

928
00:40:20,309 --> 00:40:18,480
over and over and over but you know it's

929
00:40:21,910 --> 00:40:20,319
amazing to see to how technology is not

930
00:40:23,990 --> 00:40:21,920
to geek out on you but it

931
00:40:25,750 --> 00:40:24,000
to to kind of see the rendition of what

932
00:40:26,790 --> 00:40:25,760
the black vault was in the mid to late

933
00:40:28,710 --> 00:40:26,800
90s

934
00:40:29,910 --> 00:40:28,720
and then through the 2000s and what it

935
00:40:31,750 --> 00:40:29,920
is today and

936
00:40:34,150 --> 00:40:31,760
you know by the end of 2021 i'll

937
00:40:36,230 --> 00:40:34,160
definitely break the 3 million page mark

938
00:40:37,190 --> 00:40:36,240
uh and who knows how far beyond that'll

939
00:40:39,190 --> 00:40:37,200
go but

940
00:40:41,270 --> 00:40:39,200
uh it's it's just amazing to see that

941
00:40:43,349 --> 00:40:41,280
technology because back then

942
00:40:45,270 --> 00:40:43,359
i couldn't store more than a thousand

943
00:40:46,150 --> 00:40:45,280
pages you know with the amount of space

944
00:40:48,950 --> 00:40:46,160
that i would

945
00:40:50,790 --> 00:40:48,960
uh get allocated you know and uh sounds

946
00:40:54,390 --> 00:40:50,800
geeky but it just shows you

947
00:40:54,950 --> 00:40:54,400
how much technology has changed and now

948
00:40:57,589 --> 00:40:54,960
there are

949
00:40:59,910 --> 00:40:57,599
thumb drives where i can literally put a

950
00:41:01,430 --> 00:40:59,920
half a million pages on a thumb drive

951
00:41:03,670 --> 00:41:01,440
right right you know that i can carry in

952
00:41:04,630 --> 00:41:03,680
my pocket when you really start thinking

953
00:41:06,550 --> 00:41:04,640
about that

954
00:41:08,230 --> 00:41:06,560
it's pretty incredible the kids nowadays

955
00:41:09,910 --> 00:41:08,240
they don't they go yeah dad that's uh

956
00:41:11,910 --> 00:41:09,920
you know i totally get it but

957
00:41:13,190 --> 00:41:11,920
nah back then it was it was totally

958
00:41:15,510 --> 00:41:13,200
different i can picture

959
00:41:17,030 --> 00:41:15,520
like your mom and dad feeding you

960
00:41:20,150 --> 00:41:17,040
through the bedroom door

961
00:41:22,470 --> 00:41:20,160
and you're in there for a week yes

962
00:41:23,829 --> 00:41:22,480
there was just a stench coming out yeah

963
00:41:26,230 --> 00:41:23,839
exactly

964
00:41:27,430 --> 00:41:26,240
uh no no i never got like that but there

965
00:41:29,109 --> 00:41:27,440
were a couple times

966
00:41:30,710 --> 00:41:29,119
i remember pulling all-nighters when i

967
00:41:32,870 --> 00:41:30,720
shouldn't and uh

968
00:41:34,069 --> 00:41:32,880
dad uh worked for rocketdyne on the

969
00:41:37,109 --> 00:41:34,079
space shuttle and he he was

970
00:41:39,670 --> 00:41:37,119
up uh very very early every morning and

971
00:41:41,589 --> 00:41:39,680
i remember a couple times where he was

972
00:41:43,349 --> 00:41:41,599
upstairs i was downstairs and i would

973
00:41:44,790 --> 00:41:43,359
i would hear footsteps and go oh my god

974
00:41:46,230 --> 00:41:44,800
my dad's up to go to work

975
00:41:47,990 --> 00:41:46,240
i got to go to bed you know and you get

976
00:41:49,829 --> 00:41:48,000
an hour sleep and you go to high school

977
00:41:51,349 --> 00:41:49,839
and that was probably why i didn't do as

978
00:41:54,069 --> 00:41:51,359
good as i should but hey whatever

979
00:41:56,390 --> 00:41:54,079
you know here we are yeah we don't have

980
00:41:58,470 --> 00:41:56,400
that kind of energy these days

981
00:41:59,670 --> 00:41:58,480
oh speak for yourself jimmy no i need my

982
00:42:02,870 --> 00:41:59,680
sleep man

983
00:42:06,069 --> 00:42:02,880
i need my sleep okay well um

984
00:42:07,910 --> 00:42:06,079
now uh let let's let's talk about i want

985
00:42:10,950 --> 00:42:07,920
to start with james woolsey

986
00:42:11,349 --> 00:42:10,960
and i know that uh the audience tonight

987
00:42:14,630 --> 00:42:11,359
is

988
00:42:16,069 --> 00:42:14,640
into the u.s navy videos

989
00:42:18,390 --> 00:42:16,079
we're going to save that for later

990
00:42:21,109 --> 00:42:18,400
because that's gonna probably be

991
00:42:22,069 --> 00:42:21,119
a longer conversation but with james

992
00:42:25,510 --> 00:42:22,079
woolsey

993
00:42:26,470 --> 00:42:25,520
now i know he uh he was i'm just going

994
00:42:29,670 --> 00:42:26,480
by memory

995
00:42:31,750 --> 00:42:29,680
but he was the director of the cia um

996
00:42:33,109 --> 00:42:31,760
under uh president then president

997
00:42:37,109 --> 00:42:33,119
clinton

998
00:42:40,230 --> 00:42:37,119
like 93 to 95 right in that period

999
00:42:44,390 --> 00:42:40,240
am i right yeah okay okay wow oh

1000
00:42:47,910 --> 00:42:44,400
okay there you go um and that was just

1001
00:42:49,349 --> 00:42:47,920
before the black vault and the internet

1002
00:42:51,190 --> 00:42:49,359
started to take off

1003
00:42:53,030 --> 00:42:51,200
and what's surprising to me if he would

1004
00:42:56,230 --> 00:42:53,040
have extended that out

1005
00:42:57,589 --> 00:42:56,240
uh to like 97 98 maybe

1006
00:42:59,589 --> 00:42:57,599
you wouldn't have got the interview

1007
00:43:02,710 --> 00:42:59,599
because he said you were the pain

1008
00:43:04,630 --> 00:43:02,720
in my butt back then but i

1009
00:43:06,069 --> 00:43:04,640
uh it's funny you say i i've never

1010
00:43:10,829 --> 00:43:06,079
thought about it that way but you're

1011
00:43:13,910 --> 00:43:10,839
probably right yes and so how do you

1012
00:43:16,309 --> 00:43:13,920
get somebody like james woolsey

1013
00:43:17,829 --> 00:43:16,319
how how is that email how do you reach

1014
00:43:19,589 --> 00:43:17,839
out what do you say

1015
00:43:21,190 --> 00:43:19,599
well i mean i'll be openly honest i

1016
00:43:22,630 --> 00:43:21,200
didn't think i would get the interview

1017
00:43:24,829 --> 00:43:22,640
but i thought you know what's the harm

1018
00:43:28,630 --> 00:43:24,839
in asking uh he was coming out

1019
00:43:29,430 --> 00:43:28,640
with a new book which always helps as

1020
00:43:31,349 --> 00:43:29,440
you know

1021
00:43:33,270 --> 00:43:31,359
because they want to do publicity but it

1022
00:43:35,030 --> 00:43:33,280
was it was an interesting premise where

1023
00:43:36,230 --> 00:43:35,040
he was talking about the jfk

1024
00:43:38,069 --> 00:43:36,240
assassination

1025
00:43:40,390 --> 00:43:38,079
now this is a former cia director as you

1026
00:43:42,470 --> 00:43:40,400
noted so it's not every day that they're

1027
00:43:44,630 --> 00:43:42,480
talking about one of the biggest

1028
00:43:47,349 --> 00:43:44,640
conspiracies that points the finger

1029
00:43:49,190 --> 00:43:47,359
at the cia you know and here's a cia

1030
00:43:52,309 --> 00:43:49,200
director willing to talk about it

1031
00:43:55,910 --> 00:43:52,319
but on top of that he was going into

1032
00:43:58,150 --> 00:43:55,920
his uh work with his co-author who who

1033
00:43:58,710 --> 00:43:58,160
recently passed away who was a soviet

1034
00:44:02,470 --> 00:43:58,720
agent

1035
00:44:04,870 --> 00:44:02,480
over and

1036
00:44:06,630 --> 00:44:04,880
they somehow met and became friends and

1037
00:44:07,589 --> 00:44:06,640
i got some of those details but you can

1038
00:44:09,430 --> 00:44:07,599
tell

1039
00:44:10,710 --> 00:44:09,440
you know he wasn't willing to share all

1040
00:44:13,670 --> 00:44:10,720
of the details about

1041
00:44:14,630 --> 00:44:13,680
how he and the soviet defector met but

1042
00:44:15,829 --> 00:44:14,640
they teamed together

1043
00:44:17,910 --> 00:44:15,839
teamed up together and they wrote this

1044
00:44:20,550 --> 00:44:17,920
book on the jfk assassination

1045
00:44:22,870 --> 00:44:20,560
and essentially the nutshell theory was

1046
00:44:26,870 --> 00:44:22,880
oswald was trained by the kgb

1047
00:44:28,950 --> 00:44:26,880
to take out kennedy and uh

1048
00:44:30,390 --> 00:44:28,960
the soviets started you know khrushchev

1049
00:44:32,950 --> 00:44:30,400
started thinking hey look

1050
00:44:33,670 --> 00:44:32,960
if we pull this off and we think we will

1051
00:44:35,349 --> 00:44:33,680
uh

1052
00:44:37,510 --> 00:44:35,359
we're looking at potentially not only a

1053
00:44:38,390 --> 00:44:37,520
huge war but a nuclear war so we can't

1054
00:44:40,790 --> 00:44:38,400
do this and

1055
00:44:42,790 --> 00:44:40,800
uh as woolsey kind of proposes in this

1056
00:44:43,910 --> 00:44:42,800
book khrushchev says look we can't do

1057
00:44:45,910 --> 00:44:43,920
this they kind of

1058
00:44:47,670 --> 00:44:45,920
did the whole nine and started to pull

1059
00:44:50,309 --> 00:44:47,680
back and oswald's like

1060
00:44:51,430 --> 00:44:50,319
nope i'm going for it and he went for it

1061
00:44:52,790 --> 00:44:51,440
and he thought he'd go back to the

1062
00:44:55,190 --> 00:44:52,800
soviet union a hero

1063
00:44:55,910 --> 00:44:55,200
and this and that so the conspiracy was

1064
00:44:58,230 --> 00:44:55,920
not

1065
00:44:59,990 --> 00:44:58,240
what we are kind of you know what we

1066
00:45:01,670 --> 00:45:00,000
know in more pop culture references that

1067
00:45:03,430 --> 00:45:01,680
the cia did it and the government was

1068
00:45:06,069 --> 00:45:03,440
involved and they hired the mob

1069
00:45:06,950 --> 00:45:06,079
rather his conspiracy was a soviet one

1070
00:45:08,790 --> 00:45:06,960
and the russians

1071
00:45:10,790 --> 00:45:08,800
when it was a collusion between that and

1072
00:45:12,150 --> 00:45:10,800
so on now i'm not going to say that i

1073
00:45:14,069 --> 00:45:12,160
buy into that but that was

1074
00:45:15,510 --> 00:45:14,079
that was that was why i wanted to reach

1075
00:45:17,589 --> 00:45:15,520
out to him and

1076
00:45:19,190 --> 00:45:17,599
it wasn't on my agenda to ask him about

1077
00:45:22,069 --> 00:45:19,200
ufos but then

1078
00:45:23,750 --> 00:45:22,079
you know i had to start once i once i

1079
00:45:25,349 --> 00:45:23,760
scored the interview and i fell off my

1080
00:45:26,470 --> 00:45:25,359
chair i was like oh my god he said yes

1081
00:45:28,309 --> 00:45:26,480
what do i do now

1082
00:45:30,069 --> 00:45:28,319
you know i have to schedule it so

1083
00:45:31,910 --> 00:45:30,079
everything got locked down and then

1084
00:45:34,390 --> 00:45:31,920
i had reached out to his pr people and i

1085
00:45:37,990 --> 00:45:34,400
said hey do you mind if i ask him

1086
00:45:40,710 --> 00:45:38,000
a question or two about ufos and uaps

1087
00:45:41,030 --> 00:45:40,720
um former cia director john brennan was

1088
00:45:42,870 --> 00:45:41,040
just

1089
00:45:44,309 --> 00:45:42,880
on the record about it a couple other

1090
00:45:46,390 --> 00:45:44,319
high-ranking officials

1091
00:45:48,630 --> 00:45:46,400
and so that was how i kind of weaseled

1092
00:45:51,109 --> 00:45:48,640
my way into asking about that

1093
00:45:52,150 --> 00:45:51,119
and so he the pr person essentially said

1094
00:45:54,710 --> 00:45:52,160
yeah you

1095
00:45:55,670 --> 00:45:54,720
go ahead uh but most of what he knows is

1096
00:45:58,230 --> 00:45:55,680
classified so

1097
00:45:59,670 --> 00:45:58,240
he won't probably say much about it well

1098
00:46:00,470 --> 00:45:59,680
that was after waiting that was through

1099
00:46:02,069 --> 00:46:00,480
email

1100
00:46:03,829 --> 00:46:02,079
so i thought oh my gosh did he talk to

1101
00:46:05,510 --> 00:46:03,839
woolsey and he said well can't talk

1102
00:46:06,950 --> 00:46:05,520
about that because it's classified

1103
00:46:09,270 --> 00:46:06,960
because that in itself would have been a

1104
00:46:12,150 --> 00:46:09,280
fantastic answer

1105
00:46:13,109 --> 00:46:12,160
so fast forward to the interview and uh

1106
00:46:16,309 --> 00:46:13,119
before i

1107
00:46:18,390 --> 00:46:16,319
i i triple checked uh with with uh

1108
00:46:19,990 --> 00:46:18,400
ambassador woolsey directly i didn't i

1109
00:46:23,190 --> 00:46:20,000
don't do gotcha interviews

1110
00:46:25,190 --> 00:46:23,200
uh i don't do uh any type of shock

1111
00:46:26,550 --> 00:46:25,200
journalism so to speak where i try and

1112
00:46:28,390 --> 00:46:26,560
put somebody on the spot

1113
00:46:29,829 --> 00:46:28,400
i cleared it with them again and i said

1114
00:46:31,109 --> 00:46:29,839
i want to make sure that you're aware of

1115
00:46:32,950 --> 00:46:31,119
that are you okay

1116
00:46:34,230 --> 00:46:32,960
and uh and he laughed and he goes yeah

1117
00:46:36,150 --> 00:46:34,240
yeah what you know

1118
00:46:37,589 --> 00:46:36,160
like sure sure kid whatever you want to

1119
00:46:39,829 --> 00:46:37,599
ask and uh

1120
00:46:41,430 --> 00:46:39,839
kind of laughed it off and i did not

1121
00:46:42,069 --> 00:46:41,440
expect the interview to take the turn

1122
00:46:43,589 --> 00:46:42,079
that it did

1123
00:46:45,990 --> 00:46:43,599
uh honestly i had no idea what he was

1124
00:46:47,349 --> 00:46:46,000
going to say but i had no idea that it

1125
00:46:49,190 --> 00:46:47,359
was going to take that turn

1126
00:46:50,710 --> 00:46:49,200
now we're going to get into that in just

1127
00:46:53,829 --> 00:46:50,720
a bit um

1128
00:46:58,230 --> 00:46:53,839
and before we do let's

1129
00:47:02,069 --> 00:46:58,240
talk about what a cia director

1130
00:47:05,349 --> 00:47:02,079
probably knows and doesn't know

1131
00:47:07,430 --> 00:47:05,359
and do you think um

1132
00:47:09,030 --> 00:47:07,440
i want your opinion first and then let's

1133
00:47:13,430 --> 00:47:09,040
get to the facts

1134
00:47:15,589 --> 00:47:13,440
do you think that whatever the cia

1135
00:47:18,870 --> 00:47:15,599
director knows

1136
00:47:21,990 --> 00:47:18,880
because of the position of of

1137
00:47:25,910 --> 00:47:22,000
of you know the head of an agency

1138
00:47:28,790 --> 00:47:25,920
is that independent of what is shared

1139
00:47:29,990 --> 00:47:28,800
with the president and the reason why i

1140
00:47:33,750 --> 00:47:30,000
ask

1141
00:47:36,069 --> 00:47:33,760
is because what the cia knows

1142
00:47:38,390 --> 00:47:36,079
would take a president's entire

1143
00:47:39,510 --> 00:47:38,400
four-year term to go through and never

1144
00:47:42,790 --> 00:47:39,520
get anything done

1145
00:47:45,589 --> 00:47:42,800
i mean it's just too much information so

1146
00:47:47,430 --> 00:47:45,599
do you think that the only way that

1147
00:47:49,990 --> 00:47:47,440
stuff is shared

1148
00:47:50,950 --> 00:47:50,000
between the director of the cia about

1149
00:47:53,750 --> 00:47:50,960
these other issues

1150
00:47:55,190 --> 00:47:53,760
is if they are asked right they're not

1151
00:47:56,790 --> 00:47:55,200
necessarily

1152
00:47:58,790 --> 00:47:56,800
i can't imagine that they're just

1153
00:48:01,109 --> 00:47:58,800
voluntarily giving up

1154
00:48:02,230 --> 00:48:01,119
information you have to pry it out of

1155
00:48:03,589 --> 00:48:02,240
them

1156
00:48:05,589 --> 00:48:03,599
you're talking about this the cia

1157
00:48:07,510 --> 00:48:05,599
director yes it goes in yes

1158
00:48:09,349 --> 00:48:07,520
i mean if if i understand your question

1159
00:48:11,990 --> 00:48:09,359
correctly i think when a cia director

1160
00:48:15,190 --> 00:48:12,000
goes in i i don't even think a

1161
00:48:18,390 --> 00:48:15,200
director is in the know of everything

1162
00:48:20,710 --> 00:48:18,400
that has gone on with the agency i think

1163
00:48:22,870 --> 00:48:20,720
as a sitting director you would probably

1164
00:48:24,069 --> 00:48:22,880
have to pry on a lot of these issues i'm

1165
00:48:26,470 --> 00:48:24,079
sure a lot of

1166
00:48:27,829 --> 00:48:26,480
uh operations either you know black ops

1167
00:48:31,270 --> 00:48:27,839
or otherwise

1168
00:48:33,829 --> 00:48:31,280
are underway they're staffed

1169
00:48:36,230 --> 00:48:33,839
by the appropriate people that needs to

1170
00:48:37,829 --> 00:48:36,240
you know run those particular programs

1171
00:48:39,910 --> 00:48:37,839
and to be honest with you the leaders of

1172
00:48:41,030 --> 00:48:39,920
these agencies i believe are highly kept

1173
00:48:44,870 --> 00:48:41,040
in the dark

1174
00:48:46,870 --> 00:48:44,880
say would be the sitting u.s

1175
00:48:49,430 --> 00:48:46,880
president i think the one that knows the

1176
00:48:50,470 --> 00:48:49,440
least is the highest and most powerful

1177
00:48:53,910 --> 00:48:50,480
in the land

1178
00:48:56,150 --> 00:48:53,920
i believe that when it comes to secrecy

1179
00:48:57,270 --> 00:48:56,160
those that are in the spotlight are kept

1180
00:49:00,470 --> 00:48:57,280
in the dark

1181
00:49:04,230 --> 00:49:00,480
and the reason is is because they will

1182
00:49:06,309 --> 00:49:04,240
mess up it's very easy to

1183
00:49:08,470 --> 00:49:06,319
do an oops you know you've got all this

1184
00:49:09,910 --> 00:49:08,480
classified information in your head

1185
00:49:12,230 --> 00:49:09,920
and if you're getting asked question

1186
00:49:13,030 --> 00:49:12,240
after question it's probably hard for

1187
00:49:16,230 --> 00:49:13,040
them to keep

1188
00:49:18,390 --> 00:49:16,240
all of that straight so in my opinion

1189
00:49:19,670 --> 00:49:18,400
keep it from them they don't need to

1190
00:49:21,349 --> 00:49:19,680
know the president

1191
00:49:23,510 --> 00:49:21,359
definitely doesn't need to know all of

1192
00:49:25,349 --> 00:49:23,520
that stuff but then when you get to a

1193
00:49:26,390 --> 00:49:25,359
cia director i would say out of all of

1194
00:49:27,829 --> 00:49:26,400
them

1195
00:49:29,990 --> 00:49:27,839
i would say they probably have a little

1196
00:49:32,230 --> 00:49:30,000
bit more access but again

1197
00:49:34,069 --> 00:49:32,240
you you probably would keep those types

1198
00:49:35,349 --> 00:49:34,079
of leaders in the dark a lot of times

1199
00:49:37,589 --> 00:49:35,359
they will rotate

1200
00:49:38,950 --> 00:49:37,599
you know every couple years as you

1201
00:49:40,790 --> 00:49:38,960
pointed out woolsey was

1202
00:49:42,790 --> 00:49:40,800
uh through president clinton years only

1203
00:49:45,109 --> 00:49:42,800
served two years he's not an elected

1204
00:49:48,470 --> 00:49:45,119
official but rather an appointed one

1205
00:49:50,390 --> 00:49:48,480
but still those smaller time frames

1206
00:49:51,910 --> 00:49:50,400
you shouldn't be read into all of that

1207
00:49:53,750 --> 00:49:51,920
stuff because then you go in for a year

1208
00:49:56,150 --> 00:49:53,760
or two and then you're going to come out

1209
00:49:57,589 --> 00:49:56,160
with this massive amount of classified

1210
00:49:59,430 --> 00:49:57,599
information in your head

1211
00:50:00,870 --> 00:49:59,440
i don't see it from a secrecy standpoint

1212
00:50:02,870 --> 00:50:00,880
you you you wouldn't do that

1213
00:50:04,630 --> 00:50:02,880
because they go off and write books and

1214
00:50:06,790 --> 00:50:04,640
do radio interviews and

1215
00:50:07,750 --> 00:50:06,800
do television interviews and so on and

1216
00:50:09,750 --> 00:50:07,760
so forth and

1217
00:50:11,670 --> 00:50:09,760
people like john greenwald bug the

1218
00:50:11,990 --> 00:50:11,680
bajibers out of them until they say yes

1219
00:50:14,309 --> 00:50:12,000
to

1220
00:50:15,829 --> 00:50:14,319
do a zoom interview and then boom

1221
00:50:18,870 --> 00:50:15,839
there's ufo questions

1222
00:50:21,510 --> 00:50:18,880
so i i there's too many

1223
00:50:23,190 --> 00:50:21,520
opportunities for error there and so

1224
00:50:24,390 --> 00:50:23,200
that's why i think a lot of those types

1225
00:50:26,630 --> 00:50:24,400
of of people

1226
00:50:27,990 --> 00:50:26,640
either appointed or elected are

1227
00:50:30,069 --> 00:50:28,000
absolutely kept

1228
00:50:31,510 --> 00:50:30,079
in the dark the question that i asked

1229
00:50:33,589 --> 00:50:31,520
woolsey though

1230
00:50:35,430 --> 00:50:33,599
is okay they're kept in the dark but

1231
00:50:37,750 --> 00:50:35,440
what if they start asking

1232
00:50:39,670 --> 00:50:37,760
what if they really start pushing what

1233
00:50:41,510 --> 00:50:39,680
if they start snooping around

1234
00:50:43,190 --> 00:50:41,520
and i asked woolsey i kind of made it

1235
00:50:45,589 --> 00:50:43,200
fun and he dodged it

1236
00:50:46,630 --> 00:50:45,599
um i i pretty much said i said okay look

1237
00:50:49,829 --> 00:50:46,640
um

1238
00:50:50,710 --> 00:50:49,839
ambassador i have to ask you you have

1239
00:50:53,589 --> 00:50:50,720
the keys

1240
00:50:54,390 --> 00:50:53,599
to the basement so to speak you are the

1241
00:50:57,430 --> 00:50:54,400
guy

1242
00:50:59,750 --> 00:50:57,440
you're working late at night uh you know

1243
00:51:01,349 --> 00:50:59,760
lights go off a lot of people go home

1244
00:51:02,950 --> 00:51:01,359
do you start going around you know do

1245
00:51:04,950 --> 00:51:02,960
you go to the cia's vault

1246
00:51:06,150 --> 00:51:04,960
do you start kind of sifting through

1247
00:51:07,190 --> 00:51:06,160
what they've got in those locked

1248
00:51:09,589 --> 00:51:07,200
chambers that

1249
00:51:12,230 --> 00:51:09,599
that foia may not be able to touch and

1250
00:51:14,549 --> 00:51:12,240
he kind of laughed it off and then just

1251
00:51:16,630 --> 00:51:14,559
dodged it you know just didn't didn't

1252
00:51:18,870 --> 00:51:16,640
really didn't really give me a yay or

1253
00:51:21,030 --> 00:51:18,880
nay like do you do you get to

1254
00:51:23,030 --> 00:51:21,040
uh search around and look for those

1255
00:51:24,230 --> 00:51:23,040
secrets so i didn't get my question

1256
00:51:24,950 --> 00:51:24,240
answered at least not the way that i

1257
00:51:27,109 --> 00:51:24,960
wanted

1258
00:51:28,870 --> 00:51:27,119
um but but he laughed about the question

1259
00:51:29,829 --> 00:51:28,880
so i guess maybe there's some truth to

1260
00:51:31,430 --> 00:51:29,839
that that

1261
00:51:33,430 --> 00:51:31,440
that was his hint of saying yeah you

1262
00:51:34,309 --> 00:51:33,440
know as a director we could do whatever

1263
00:51:38,309 --> 00:51:34,319
we want

1264
00:51:41,990 --> 00:51:38,319
uh but he just didn't admit as such well

1265
00:51:43,829 --> 00:51:42,000
the point is such a basic one but

1266
00:51:46,069 --> 00:51:43,839
you go in as director you're going to be

1267
00:51:48,950 --> 00:51:46,079
there for six months a year two years

1268
00:51:50,790 --> 00:51:48,960
three years the people underneath you

1269
00:51:53,589 --> 00:51:50,800
have been running these programs

1270
00:51:54,069 --> 00:51:53,599
as their career yeah they've been there

1271
00:51:55,910 --> 00:51:54,079
15

1272
00:51:58,470 --> 00:51:55,920
20 years 30 years and they're going to

1273
00:51:59,349 --> 00:51:58,480
be there after you leave the programs

1274
00:52:00,870 --> 00:51:59,359
continue

1275
00:52:02,950 --> 00:52:00,880
they were there before you got there

1276
00:52:06,470 --> 00:52:02,960
they're going to be there after

1277
00:52:07,910 --> 00:52:06,480
you leave and they know that yeah right

1278
00:52:11,589 --> 00:52:07,920
not only

1279
00:52:13,349 --> 00:52:11,599
um how do i i doubt

1280
00:52:14,950 --> 00:52:13,359
they bring him into his new office

1281
00:52:18,549 --> 00:52:14,960
here's here you go

1282
00:52:19,750 --> 00:52:18,559
right here it is james um this is the

1283
00:52:23,510 --> 00:52:19,760
ufo files

1284
00:52:27,030 --> 00:52:23,520
right yeah these are the jfk files

1285
00:52:28,790 --> 00:52:27,040
uh here's the files on elvis right i i

1286
00:52:30,470 --> 00:52:28,800
don't think that that's how it's done i

1287
00:52:31,670 --> 00:52:30,480
really don't they're there to make

1288
00:52:33,589 --> 00:52:31,680
decisions

1289
00:52:35,030 --> 00:52:33,599
about things that are ongoing at that

1290
00:52:36,870 --> 00:52:35,040
moment and moving forward

1291
00:52:39,430 --> 00:52:36,880
right and moving forward yeah and and

1292
00:52:42,390 --> 00:52:39,440
politicians again i feel are

1293
00:52:44,390 --> 00:52:42,400
very much uh in the same boat where they

1294
00:52:46,230 --> 00:52:44,400
are there for that short amount of time

1295
00:52:47,589 --> 00:52:46,240
it's the people that are running in the

1296
00:52:49,990 --> 00:52:47,599
shadows for

1297
00:52:50,710 --> 00:52:50,000
years and sometimes decades those are

1298
00:52:52,549 --> 00:52:50,720
the guys

1299
00:52:54,150 --> 00:52:52,559
and gals that you never hear from you

1300
00:52:55,750 --> 00:52:54,160
know or very rarely

1301
00:52:57,589 --> 00:52:55,760
they're not doing the interviews they're

1302
00:52:59,990 --> 00:52:57,599
not on 60 minutes

1303
00:53:01,589 --> 00:53:00,000
and very rarely write books and those

1304
00:53:02,630 --> 00:53:01,599
are the ones that i think are really in

1305
00:53:05,309 --> 00:53:02,640
the know

1306
00:53:06,790 --> 00:53:05,319
in their niche you know they call it

1307
00:53:09,030 --> 00:53:06,800
compartmentalization

1308
00:53:11,430 --> 00:53:09,040
so in their particular compartment they

1309
00:53:13,190 --> 00:53:11,440
are top secret cleared for this

1310
00:53:14,549 --> 00:53:13,200
that's what they do they run it for

1311
00:53:16,950 --> 00:53:14,559
years or decades

1312
00:53:17,589 --> 00:53:16,960
and potentially directors don't even

1313
00:53:21,910 --> 00:53:17,599
know

1314
00:53:23,589 --> 00:53:21,920
that that makes a lot of sense to me in

1315
00:53:25,750 --> 00:53:23,599
a classified world

1316
00:53:26,829 --> 00:53:25,760
on why you would do that how did you

1317
00:53:29,829 --> 00:53:26,839
choose to

1318
00:53:33,430 --> 00:53:29,839
approach uh the ufo subject

1319
00:53:36,230 --> 00:53:33,440
did you uh lead the conversation in that

1320
00:53:38,309 --> 00:53:36,240
direction or did you just go for it

1321
00:53:39,829 --> 00:53:38,319
to my surprise after woolsey kind of

1322
00:53:40,870 --> 00:53:39,839
laughed in the beginning before we got

1323
00:53:42,950 --> 00:53:40,880
rolling

1324
00:53:45,190 --> 00:53:42,960
the way i envisioned was i was just

1325
00:53:47,750 --> 00:53:45,200
going to do a question or two at the end

1326
00:53:49,670 --> 00:53:47,760
and that was it when you're with a

1327
00:53:50,230 --> 00:53:49,680
former cia director you don't want to

1328
00:53:51,990 --> 00:53:50,240
push it

1329
00:53:54,790 --> 00:53:52,000
you know you don't want to upset the man

1330
00:53:57,270 --> 00:53:54,800
you don't he's not under a spotlight

1331
00:53:58,950 --> 00:53:57,280
in an interrogation room we're doing an

1332
00:53:59,910 --> 00:53:58,960
interview so i didn't want to push it so

1333
00:54:02,549 --> 00:53:59,920
that was my

1334
00:54:05,030 --> 00:54:02,559
vision that was what i thought and about

1335
00:54:08,069 --> 00:54:05,040
a half hour in halfway through

1336
00:54:10,470 --> 00:54:08,079
he shifted to the ufo thing himself

1337
00:54:11,270 --> 00:54:10,480
and he started making references to

1338
00:54:13,670 --> 00:54:11,280
unknown

1339
00:54:14,950 --> 00:54:13,680
and flying aircraft and stuff like that

1340
00:54:16,549 --> 00:54:14,960
and i kind of was scratching my head

1341
00:54:18,470 --> 00:54:16,559
going wait a minute

1342
00:54:19,670 --> 00:54:18,480
did we just transition like i'm not sure

1343
00:54:22,870 --> 00:54:19,680
what happened

1344
00:54:23,990 --> 00:54:22,880
so i i was trying to be respectful to

1345
00:54:25,349 --> 00:54:24,000
that uh

1346
00:54:27,430 --> 00:54:25,359
meaning i just didn't want to start

1347
00:54:29,109 --> 00:54:27,440
grilling him about ufos because

1348
00:54:30,710 --> 00:54:29,119
i didn't also want him to think i was

1349
00:54:32,069 --> 00:54:30,720
misleading with the interview like

1350
00:54:34,150 --> 00:54:32,079
yeah yeah we'll talk about your book the

1351
00:54:35,430 --> 00:54:34,160
whole time and then that's like three

1352
00:54:36,950 --> 00:54:35,440
percent of the interview and i just

1353
00:54:39,750 --> 00:54:36,960
start bombarding with

1354
00:54:40,549 --> 00:54:39,760
you know ufo questions uh but he went

1355
00:54:42,549 --> 00:54:40,559
there himself

1356
00:54:44,069 --> 00:54:42,559
and it was like he really wanted to talk

1357
00:54:45,430 --> 00:54:44,079
about it that was the impression i got

1358
00:54:47,910 --> 00:54:45,440
so we stuck with it

1359
00:54:49,030 --> 00:54:47,920
and we started talking about ufos and so

1360
00:54:53,030 --> 00:54:49,040
he took the lead

1361
00:54:55,990 --> 00:54:53,040
i didn't transition at all i i

1362
00:54:57,589 --> 00:54:56,000
had to transition myself because i was

1363
00:55:00,549 --> 00:54:57,599
in the mindset of

1364
00:55:01,670 --> 00:55:00,559
cold war soviet union khrushchev kennedy

1365
00:55:03,270 --> 00:55:01,680
oswald

1366
00:55:04,710 --> 00:55:03,280
and you know there's a lot of facts to

1367
00:55:06,870 --> 00:55:04,720
keep straight and i'm not

1368
00:55:07,829 --> 00:55:06,880
the most polished on on jfk

1369
00:55:09,670 --> 00:55:07,839
assassination

1370
00:55:11,589 --> 00:55:09,680
so i'm trying to keep up with the former

1371
00:55:12,069 --> 00:55:11,599
cia director that just wrote a book on

1372
00:55:14,950 --> 00:55:12,079
it

1373
00:55:15,510 --> 00:55:14,960
so my mind was there he goes to ufos and

1374
00:55:17,750 --> 00:55:15,520
i go

1375
00:55:19,030 --> 00:55:17,760
all right let's play ball and so we

1376
00:55:21,910 --> 00:55:19,040
shifted topics and

1377
00:55:23,750 --> 00:55:21,920
so yeah i had it one way in my head and

1378
00:55:24,150 --> 00:55:23,760
uh ambassador woolsey took it a whole

1379
00:55:27,109 --> 00:55:24,160
way

1380
00:55:28,630 --> 00:55:27,119
uh entirely so uh we've got about uh

1381
00:55:31,430 --> 00:55:28,640
four minutes to the break

1382
00:55:31,990 --> 00:55:31,440
uh what was the first subject uh that

1383
00:55:34,870 --> 00:55:32,000
you guys

1384
00:55:36,710 --> 00:55:34,880
jumped into when it came to ufos well i

1385
00:55:37,430 --> 00:55:36,720
just when he had started talking about

1386
00:55:40,069 --> 00:55:37,440
it

1387
00:55:41,349 --> 00:55:40,079
he what i thought was very skeptical in

1388
00:55:42,230 --> 00:55:41,359
the sense that most things have

1389
00:55:45,109 --> 00:55:42,240
explanations

1390
00:55:47,109 --> 00:55:45,119
and can be explained and i so in my head

1391
00:55:49,030 --> 00:55:47,119
when i started shifting gears

1392
00:55:50,630 --> 00:55:49,040
uh as as again more of the the

1393
00:55:52,789 --> 00:55:50,640
interviewer going okay i'd get out of

1394
00:55:55,109 --> 00:55:52,799
the jfk assassination was he gonna say

1395
00:55:56,870 --> 00:55:55,119
he was more skeptical and i thought to

1396
00:55:58,390 --> 00:55:56,880
myself okay here we go this ain't gonna

1397
00:55:58,870 --> 00:55:58,400
last long because he's just gonna kind

1398
00:56:00,630 --> 00:55:58,880
of

1399
00:56:01,990 --> 00:56:00,640
destroy the whole thing and just say

1400
00:56:03,510 --> 00:56:02,000
well it's all rumor

1401
00:56:05,270 --> 00:56:03,520
and he talked a lot about soviet

1402
00:56:07,349 --> 00:56:05,280
disinformation uh

1403
00:56:08,750 --> 00:56:07,359
not only with the jfk assassination but

1404
00:56:12,309 --> 00:56:08,760
also like

1405
00:56:14,150 --> 00:56:12,319
ufo-related um he didn't say mj-12

1406
00:56:16,390 --> 00:56:14,160
but he but if you listen to his words he

1407
00:56:18,230 --> 00:56:16,400
kind of was leaning towards the secret

1408
00:56:20,230 --> 00:56:18,240
group that did all this stuff

1409
00:56:22,150 --> 00:56:20,240
so he's going down the disinformation

1410
00:56:23,510 --> 00:56:22,160
route and he's he's really kind of

1411
00:56:25,910 --> 00:56:23,520
playing that angle

1412
00:56:29,349 --> 00:56:25,920
and i thought that was it and then he

1413
00:56:32,549 --> 00:56:29,359
goes into a story about his friend

1414
00:56:32,870 --> 00:56:32,559
that was a pilot where he's flying at at

1415
00:56:38,230 --> 00:56:32,880
uh

1416
00:56:39,430 --> 00:56:38,240
obviously talking about a ufo encounter

1417
00:56:42,549 --> 00:56:39,440
and he said that the

1418
00:56:45,109 --> 00:56:42,559
uh plane stopped paused was his

1419
00:56:46,069 --> 00:56:45,119
wording and he and he kind of put his

1420
00:56:49,030 --> 00:56:46,079
hand in the air

1421
00:56:50,870 --> 00:56:49,040
like it like the plane stopped and i'm

1422
00:56:52,470 --> 00:56:50,880
you know my mouth is going to the ground

1423
00:56:54,870 --> 00:56:52,480
at that point i'm like wait a minute

1424
00:56:56,390 --> 00:56:54,880
is he using an analogy because the way

1425
00:56:59,349 --> 00:56:56,400
and i'm paraphrasing but the way he said

1426
00:57:01,589 --> 00:56:59,359
the story was so my friend tells me this

1427
00:57:03,750 --> 00:57:01,599
and what is that should we look into it

1428
00:57:06,309 --> 00:57:03,760
and you know we should investigate it

1429
00:57:08,870 --> 00:57:06,319
so i'm thinking okay did i just space

1430
00:57:11,030 --> 00:57:08,880
out and did he give me an analogy like

1431
00:57:12,549 --> 00:57:11,040
if my friend were to tell me that that's

1432
00:57:14,710 --> 00:57:12,559
something you'd want to look into

1433
00:57:16,470 --> 00:57:14,720
because it was so wild to hear my plane

1434
00:57:18,789 --> 00:57:16,480
paused you know

1435
00:57:19,510 --> 00:57:18,799
and so i asked him i said uh you know

1436
00:57:22,950 --> 00:57:19,520
can you

1437
00:57:24,950 --> 00:57:22,960
an actual story are you saying

1438
00:57:26,069 --> 00:57:24,960
if that were to happen and he clarified

1439
00:57:29,190 --> 00:57:26,079
that that is what his friend

1440
00:57:32,630 --> 00:57:29,200
said and and had this encounter that

1441
00:57:35,670 --> 00:57:32,640
made his plane stop working

1442
00:57:36,390 --> 00:57:35,680
like a normal aircraft was how he said

1443
00:57:38,390 --> 00:57:36,400
it

1444
00:57:40,150 --> 00:57:38,400
and that was mind-blowing to me that's

1445
00:57:42,870 --> 00:57:40,160
when the ufo part

1446
00:57:44,950 --> 00:57:42,880
shifted to something i was not expecting

1447
00:57:48,230 --> 00:57:44,960
at all

1448
00:57:51,510 --> 00:57:48,240
the the flavor of things with

1449
00:57:55,030 --> 00:57:51,520
uh with wolsey

1450
00:58:00,470 --> 00:57:55,040
was he you always get the dance

1451
00:58:03,750 --> 00:58:00,480
right was he a believer in the subject

1452
00:58:05,829 --> 00:58:03,760
or is he doing like what harry

1453
00:58:08,390 --> 00:58:05,839
we need to investigate this we need we

1454
00:58:09,430 --> 00:58:08,400
don't know what's going on what was your

1455
00:58:12,870 --> 00:58:09,440
take on that

1456
00:58:14,309 --> 00:58:12,880
i i don't feel he had a take was my take

1457
00:58:17,109 --> 00:58:14,319
i i don't feel like he was one way or

1458
00:58:20,789 --> 00:58:17,119
the other but i felt he was open to it

1459
00:58:22,309 --> 00:58:20,799
and at one point he says towards the end

1460
00:58:23,910 --> 00:58:22,319
when he was summarizing everything he

1461
00:58:26,470 --> 00:58:23,920
says look in closing he's like

1462
00:58:27,829 --> 00:58:26,480
i just hope that we could essentially be

1463
00:58:30,950 --> 00:58:27,839
friendly

1464
00:58:33,750 --> 00:58:30,960
with whomever whatever this is uh

1465
00:58:35,510 --> 00:58:33,760
and and he even used the word creatures

1466
00:58:37,829 --> 00:58:35,520
from somewhere else

1467
00:58:39,589 --> 00:58:37,839
so it was like you know and at this

1468
00:58:41,670 --> 00:58:39,599
point again i'm shutting my

1469
00:58:42,789 --> 00:58:41,680
mouth going oh my gosh is he really

1470
00:58:45,030 --> 00:58:42,799
saying this

1471
00:58:46,309 --> 00:58:45,040
but it it's that to me showed the

1472
00:58:48,710 --> 00:58:46,319
openness

1473
00:58:49,670 --> 00:58:48,720
to the topic he didn't say he was a

1474
00:58:52,390 --> 00:58:49,680
believer

1475
00:58:54,789 --> 00:58:52,400
but i truly walked away from it not

1476
00:58:57,510 --> 00:58:54,799
thinking he was a denier either

1477
00:58:57,910 --> 00:58:57,520
and and that he was open to it and what

1478
00:59:08,549 --> 00:58:57,920
i

1479
00:59:10,390 --> 00:59:08,559
far away from the planet earth that we

1480
00:59:13,430 --> 00:59:10,400
just don't shoot it out of the sky

1481
00:59:14,309 --> 00:59:13,440
that was what i took away with my

1482
00:59:17,109 --> 00:59:14,319
interview with him

1483
00:59:17,990 --> 00:59:17,119
of him saying we should be friendly i

1484
00:59:19,990 --> 00:59:18,000
hope we can do

1485
00:59:22,069 --> 00:59:20,000
that even if they are creatures from

1486
00:59:22,630 --> 00:59:22,079
somewhere else and the word creatures

1487
00:59:26,950 --> 00:59:22,640
was

1488
00:59:29,430 --> 00:59:26,960
used so i need to take our break right

1489
00:59:31,750 --> 00:59:29,440
here let's get this in our guest tonight

1490
00:59:32,710 --> 00:59:31,760
john greenwald of the black vault he

1491
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just now

1492
00:59:36,990 --> 00:59:33,799
everybody can go over to

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theblackvault.com it is

1494
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theblackvault.com

1495
00:59:42,630 --> 00:59:41,440
not his twitter handle you can go over

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and uh

1497
00:59:47,349 --> 00:59:44,400
and check everything out including the

1498
00:59:49,190 --> 00:59:47,359
interview with former cia director james

1499
00:59:50,950 --> 00:59:49,200
woolsey i'm your host jimmy church

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this is fade to black stay with us we'll

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be right back more with john

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after this short break stay with us

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01:05:08,789 --> 01:05:06,720
welcome back fade to black i'm your host

1619
01:05:10,309 --> 01:05:08,799
jimmy church tonight john greenwald is

1620
01:05:14,150 --> 01:05:10,319
here with the black vault

1621
01:05:15,190 --> 01:05:14,160
and john is uh been very very busy over

1622
01:05:18,069 --> 01:05:15,200
the last month

1623
01:05:19,750 --> 01:05:18,079
and one of the things that he he

1624
01:05:20,150 --> 01:05:19,760
accomplished i don't know how he did it

1625
01:05:23,190 --> 01:05:20,160
but

1626
01:05:24,950 --> 01:05:23,200
he uh had an interview with former cia

1627
01:05:27,829 --> 01:05:24,960
director james woolsey

1628
01:05:28,789 --> 01:05:27,839
and i've just posted up in in twitter so

1629
01:05:31,510 --> 01:05:28,799
is john

1630
01:05:32,390 --> 01:05:31,520
links to the interview and after the

1631
01:05:34,069 --> 01:05:32,400
show tonight i

1632
01:05:35,430 --> 01:05:34,079
encourage everybody to go and check this

1633
01:05:39,349 --> 01:05:35,440
out now uh

1634
01:05:42,470 --> 01:05:39,359
back to the interview uh what did uh

1635
01:05:43,750 --> 01:05:42,480
what did he have to say about uh the the

1636
01:05:46,870 --> 01:05:43,760
sudden friendship

1637
01:05:49,589 --> 01:05:46,880
between washington and the ufo community

1638
01:05:53,109 --> 01:05:49,599
and disclosure and ufos and the uap

1639
01:05:56,789 --> 01:05:53,119
task force he really didn't go there

1640
01:05:59,190 --> 01:05:56,799
uh he stayed more in in generalities

1641
01:06:00,470 --> 01:05:59,200
talking about the topic he did make

1642
01:06:03,190 --> 01:06:00,480
reference to the fact

1643
01:06:04,230 --> 01:06:03,200
and that was his segue into ufos and

1644
01:06:05,990 --> 01:06:04,240
uaps

1645
01:06:07,829 --> 01:06:06,000
and somebody pointed this out on twitter

1646
01:06:10,630 --> 01:06:07,839
and they're absolutely right it was

1647
01:06:12,150 --> 01:06:10,640
me asking about the jfk assassination

1648
01:06:15,750 --> 01:06:12,160
and it's like he wanted to

1649
01:06:17,109 --> 01:06:15,760
answer on ufos and

1650
01:06:18,549 --> 01:06:17,119
i don't i don't know i don't have an

1651
01:06:20,069 --> 01:06:18,559
answer for that i mean we had a clear

1652
01:06:21,990 --> 01:06:20,079
connection and everything

1653
01:06:23,430 --> 01:06:22,000
uh he may have just wanted to to

1654
01:06:25,589 --> 01:06:23,440
transition to that he may have been

1655
01:06:28,630 --> 01:06:25,599
excited to talk about it i'm not sure

1656
01:06:32,390 --> 01:06:28,640
but he did make reference to this

1657
01:06:33,829 --> 01:06:32,400
coming ufo uap report in the sense that

1658
01:06:35,430 --> 01:06:33,839
maybe we'll know more

1659
01:06:37,029 --> 01:06:35,440
so he did make reference to it but

1660
01:06:40,390 --> 01:06:37,039
didn't didn't elaborate

1661
01:06:43,109 --> 01:06:40,400
past that uh his main point was

1662
01:06:45,910 --> 01:06:43,119
his story about his his friend the pilot

1663
01:06:49,109 --> 01:06:45,920
which again was fascinating to me

1664
01:06:49,910 --> 01:06:49,119
but then then more of the more of the

1665
01:06:53,109 --> 01:06:49,920
openness

1666
01:06:55,910 --> 01:06:53,119
you know of of just being open to that

1667
01:06:57,750 --> 01:06:55,920
to that topic and i think that that's a

1668
01:06:58,870 --> 01:06:57,760
really interesting aspect to what we

1669
01:07:01,750 --> 01:06:58,880
keep seeing

1670
01:07:02,630 --> 01:07:01,760
not only with ambassador woolsey but

1671
01:07:05,270 --> 01:07:02,640
again

1672
01:07:07,029 --> 01:07:05,280
john brennan's former cia director john

1673
01:07:10,309 --> 01:07:07,039
ratcliffe former dni

1674
01:07:11,750 --> 01:07:10,319
uh director so you look at these

1675
01:07:15,589 --> 01:07:11,760
officials

1676
01:07:17,270 --> 01:07:15,599
and how open they are it reinforces a

1677
01:07:19,270 --> 01:07:17,280
theory that i've had for quite some time

1678
01:07:20,870 --> 01:07:19,280
which is they don't know

1679
01:07:22,309 --> 01:07:20,880
that that is the national security

1680
01:07:23,349 --> 01:07:22,319
threat that plays into all of this that

1681
01:07:24,789 --> 01:07:23,359
they're clueless

1682
01:07:25,990 --> 01:07:24,799
a lot of people hate me for that because

1683
01:07:27,510 --> 01:07:26,000
they think the government knows

1684
01:07:29,510 --> 01:07:27,520
everything

1685
01:07:31,670 --> 01:07:29,520
but i i personally i think that they are

1686
01:07:34,549 --> 01:07:31,680
clueless and to hear

1687
01:07:35,430 --> 01:07:34,559
james woolsey kind of add to that that

1688
01:07:38,710 --> 01:07:35,440
he didn't have

1689
01:07:39,510 --> 01:07:38,720
answers but just being you know a human

1690
01:07:42,150 --> 01:07:39,520
being

1691
01:07:43,190 --> 01:07:42,160
that he's curious about it he's heard

1692
01:07:45,270 --> 01:07:43,200
stories

1693
01:07:47,349 --> 01:07:45,280
he doesn't deny it meaning he didn't

1694
01:07:49,109 --> 01:07:47,359
just go oh that's all rubbish

1695
01:07:51,190 --> 01:07:49,119
you know i and which i thought he was

1696
01:07:53,430 --> 01:07:51,200
going to do with the the soviet

1697
01:07:54,390 --> 01:07:53,440
and then later russian disinformation

1698
01:07:56,710 --> 01:07:54,400
that they just

1699
01:07:58,309 --> 01:07:56,720
throw out there that's what i thought

1700
01:08:01,270 --> 01:07:58,319
his take was going to be

1701
01:08:03,430 --> 01:08:01,280
and he said that a lot of that is and he

1702
01:08:04,710 --> 01:08:03,440
he recognizes that even with the jfk

1703
01:08:07,510 --> 01:08:04,720
assassination

1704
01:08:09,270 --> 01:08:07,520
uh that that that's what the soviets and

1705
01:08:11,670 --> 01:08:09,280
the russians

1706
01:08:13,430 --> 01:08:11,680
do they did it during the cold war and

1707
01:08:15,190 --> 01:08:13,440
uh did it thereafter

1708
01:08:17,510 --> 01:08:15,200
and and i thought that that's what he

1709
01:08:18,149 --> 01:08:17,520
was going to do with ufos and uaps as

1710
01:08:20,789 --> 01:08:18,159
well

1711
01:08:23,189 --> 01:08:20,799
just dismiss it but he didn't so that

1712
01:08:24,149 --> 01:08:23,199
that openness is really intriguing to me

1713
01:08:25,669 --> 01:08:24,159
from these

1714
01:08:27,430 --> 01:08:25,679
higher ranking officials that aren't

1715
01:08:30,630 --> 01:08:27,440
afraid to talk about it

1716
01:08:33,749 --> 01:08:30,640
and it's like they just don't deny it

1717
01:08:35,510 --> 01:08:33,759
and and you would expect a former spook

1718
01:08:37,110 --> 01:08:35,520
if you you know want to call them that

1719
01:08:39,590 --> 01:08:37,120
that they're just going to deny the

1720
01:08:41,910 --> 01:08:39,600
whole thing and go ah that's ridiculous

1721
01:08:43,430 --> 01:08:41,920
but on the opposite end they're not they

1722
01:08:44,870 --> 01:08:43,440
just seem a lot more open

1723
01:08:47,110 --> 01:08:44,880
when you can get them on the record it's

1724
01:08:48,550 --> 01:08:47,120
not every day you can but it just seems

1725
01:08:49,910 --> 01:08:48,560
like there's a growing number that are

1726
01:08:53,269 --> 01:08:49,920
open to all of this

1727
01:08:56,870 --> 01:08:53,279
it seems to me that

1728
01:09:00,309 --> 01:08:56,880
uh these heads of the agencies

1729
01:09:03,910 --> 01:09:00,319
nsa dia or wherever you want to go

1730
01:09:09,030 --> 01:09:03,920
cia the nro that

1731
01:09:12,870 --> 01:09:09,040
when they get the real info

1732
01:09:16,390 --> 01:09:12,880
right they read a page and then

1733
01:09:19,430 --> 01:09:16,400
the reality is so big

1734
01:09:22,070 --> 01:09:19,440
to them that their heart probably just

1735
01:09:25,430 --> 01:09:22,080
about explodes out of their chest

1736
01:09:26,789 --> 01:09:25,440
and they realize the seriousness of the

1737
01:09:30,229 --> 01:09:26,799
implications

1738
01:09:31,110 --> 01:09:30,239
and there is no way they will ever

1739
01:09:33,269 --> 01:09:31,120
discuss it

1740
01:09:35,910 --> 01:09:33,279
ever for the rest of their lives that

1741
01:09:38,470 --> 01:09:35,920
that reality hits them in the face

1742
01:09:40,070 --> 01:09:38,480
and it's like the biggest thing ever in

1743
01:09:42,309 --> 01:09:40,080
the history of the world

1744
01:09:43,349 --> 01:09:42,319
and once they are exposed to it there's

1745
01:09:45,269 --> 01:09:43,359
just no way

1746
01:09:47,189 --> 01:09:45,279
and they're always going to take a

1747
01:09:50,709 --> 01:09:47,199
nonchalant attitude

1748
01:09:52,709 --> 01:09:50,719
uh about it uh forever and that includes

1749
01:09:55,750 --> 01:09:52,719
ratcliffe and that includes brennan

1750
01:09:58,070 --> 01:09:55,760
where they alluded to these things and

1751
01:10:00,630 --> 01:09:58,080
to the knowledge

1752
01:10:02,470 --> 01:10:00,640
but no there's just no way they're gonna

1753
01:10:04,790 --> 01:10:02,480
cross that line

1754
01:10:06,229 --> 01:10:04,800
yeah i i and that's part of the reason

1755
01:10:07,030 --> 01:10:06,239
why i think that they would just be kept

1756
01:10:10,310 --> 01:10:07,040
in the dark

1757
01:10:11,910 --> 01:10:10,320
is that let's just say all of this is is

1758
01:10:14,310 --> 01:10:11,920
true in the sense that they are

1759
01:10:16,310 --> 01:10:14,320
actively covering up an extraterrestrial

1760
01:10:18,790 --> 01:10:16,320
presence and they know it right it's

1761
01:10:19,750 --> 01:10:18,800
buried deep in the black ops world and

1762
01:10:23,510 --> 01:10:19,760
and

1763
01:10:25,430 --> 01:10:23,520
let's just assume for a moment that's

1764
01:10:27,990 --> 01:10:25,440
all true

1765
01:10:28,790 --> 01:10:28,000
that would be such a staggering

1766
01:10:31,350 --> 01:10:28,800
revelation

1767
01:10:32,310 --> 01:10:31,360
for anybody whether it be an elected

1768
01:10:35,669 --> 01:10:32,320
president

1769
01:10:37,189 --> 01:10:35,679
senator congressman or an appointed cia

1770
01:10:39,590 --> 01:10:37,199
director or whomever

1771
01:10:41,750 --> 01:10:39,600
that that's where i feel that they just

1772
01:10:44,390 --> 01:10:41,760
shield all of them away

1773
01:10:45,189 --> 01:10:44,400
and that you have to be the top of the

1774
01:10:47,510 --> 01:10:45,199
top

1775
01:10:48,950 --> 01:10:47,520
to start getting into that portion of

1776
01:10:51,510 --> 01:10:48,960
the secrecy world

1777
01:10:51,990 --> 01:10:51,520
where you run those programs you know

1778
01:10:55,110 --> 01:10:52,000
and

1779
01:10:56,310 --> 01:10:55,120
don't think i know what your thoughts

1780
01:10:57,669 --> 01:10:56,320
are on bob lazar

1781
01:10:59,270 --> 01:10:57,679
but that's why i have a problem with

1782
01:11:01,110 --> 01:10:59,280
someone like bob lazar just coming out

1783
01:11:02,870 --> 01:11:01,120
and talking about all these stories and

1784
01:11:04,550 --> 01:11:02,880
you know i saw all these alien craft and

1785
01:11:06,790 --> 01:11:04,560
this and that um

1786
01:11:08,790 --> 01:11:06,800
i just think that that's not even

1787
01:11:11,189 --> 01:11:08,800
feasible you know i mean if if you're at

1788
01:11:13,189 --> 01:11:11,199
a level where you can see that

1789
01:11:15,270 --> 01:11:13,199
um my guess is you probably won't be

1790
01:11:17,189 --> 01:11:15,280
seeing the sun that much

1791
01:11:19,910 --> 01:11:17,199
you know and that that scene in

1792
01:11:21,669 --> 01:11:19,920
independence day is so classic where

1793
01:11:23,750 --> 01:11:21,679
you know you see the scientist who's got

1794
01:11:24,310 --> 01:11:23,760
this long grungy hair and you can tell

1795
01:11:26,470 --> 01:11:24,320
that

1796
01:11:28,229 --> 01:11:26,480
you they just keep them locked 30 floors

1797
01:11:31,110 --> 01:11:28,239
underneath area 51.

1798
01:11:32,630 --> 01:11:31,120
obviously fiction but that's kind of

1799
01:11:34,790 --> 01:11:32,640
what i envisioned with this

1800
01:11:37,189 --> 01:11:34,800
is that you you then all of a sudden if

1801
01:11:39,510 --> 01:11:37,199
you are the the secret keepers

1802
01:11:41,590 --> 01:11:39,520
you are going to be locked away you know

1803
01:11:42,550 --> 01:11:41,600
you can't mess up you can't go in

1804
01:11:45,350 --> 01:11:42,560
silhouette

1805
01:11:46,229 --> 01:11:45,360
on a local tv channel and and spill the

1806
01:11:48,950 --> 01:11:46,239
most

1807
01:11:50,709 --> 01:11:48,960
closely guarded secrets this nation has

1808
01:11:53,030 --> 01:11:50,719
and nothing happens to you

1809
01:11:54,630 --> 01:11:53,040
you know i just don't buy it you know

1810
01:11:55,669 --> 01:11:54,640
and we have examples to show what

1811
01:11:57,350 --> 01:11:55,679
happens when

1812
01:11:58,790 --> 01:11:57,360
people do spill secrets you know and

1813
01:12:01,510 --> 01:11:58,800
they go in hiding and

1814
01:12:02,790 --> 01:12:01,520
uh like an edward snowden you know and

1815
01:12:03,430 --> 01:12:02,800
so that you don't get away with stuff

1816
01:12:06,310 --> 01:12:03,440
like that

1817
01:12:08,229 --> 01:12:06,320
so that's why i feel if you are touching

1818
01:12:10,149 --> 01:12:08,239
that material

1819
01:12:11,669 --> 01:12:10,159
you and i probably will never know who

1820
01:12:14,070 --> 01:12:11,679
they are well

1821
01:12:16,310 --> 01:12:14,080
there's the other scene in independence

1822
01:12:19,669 --> 01:12:16,320
day that's equally as telling

1823
01:12:22,790 --> 01:12:19,679
and not to make two hollywood references

1824
01:12:24,390 --> 01:12:22,800
inside of 60 seconds but

1825
01:12:25,910 --> 01:12:24,400
uh you know that scene when they're on

1826
01:12:29,189 --> 01:12:25,920
air force one

1827
01:12:32,229 --> 01:12:29,199
and uh and the president you know

1828
01:12:35,270 --> 01:12:32,239
there is no such thing as area 51.

1829
01:12:38,390 --> 01:12:35,280
and uh well that's not exactly

1830
01:12:41,110 --> 01:12:38,400
accurate sir right and

1831
01:12:42,070 --> 01:12:41,120
uh that that right there is probably as

1832
01:12:45,189 --> 01:12:42,080
telling as it

1833
01:12:47,830 --> 01:12:45,199
gets fictionalized or not i think that's

1834
01:12:50,470 --> 01:12:47,840
where the reality probably is hitting

1835
01:12:52,950 --> 01:12:50,480
yeah and and and i think that there's a

1836
01:12:53,430 --> 01:12:52,960
lot of truth in hollywoodized films you

1837
01:12:55,430 --> 01:12:53,440
know you

1838
01:12:57,750 --> 01:12:55,440
you find a lot of truth in those types

1839
01:12:59,270 --> 01:12:57,760
of scenes but absolutely i think

1840
01:13:02,149 --> 01:12:59,280
you know nowadays the presidents know

1841
01:13:03,669 --> 01:13:02,159
about area 51 it's been declassified but

1842
01:13:05,510 --> 01:13:03,679
i bet that there's a lot of other

1843
01:13:07,350 --> 01:13:05,520
underground facilities or at least we

1844
01:13:09,350 --> 01:13:07,360
we know for a fact they are uh

1845
01:13:11,030 --> 01:13:09,360
underground facilities in operation

1846
01:13:12,870 --> 01:13:11,040
doing all sorts of things

1847
01:13:14,790 --> 01:13:12,880
i did a show for history channel where

1848
01:13:16,870 --> 01:13:14,800
we explored that very topic

1849
01:13:18,149 --> 01:13:16,880
and we went to greenbrier where we got

1850
01:13:21,350 --> 01:13:18,159
to go into this

1851
01:13:22,390 --> 01:13:21,360
once highly classified top secret

1852
01:13:24,870 --> 01:13:22,400
facility that was

1853
01:13:26,709 --> 01:13:24,880
underneath a i think it was like a four

1854
01:13:29,990 --> 01:13:26,719
or five star resort

1855
01:13:32,390 --> 01:13:30,000
and it operated for quite some time

1856
01:13:34,149 --> 01:13:32,400
and no one knew and it was on top of a

1857
01:13:35,030 --> 01:13:34,159
resort where people were going and

1858
01:13:37,750 --> 01:13:35,040
playing golf

1859
01:13:40,149 --> 01:13:37,760
and spending nights in hotel rooms and

1860
01:13:42,630 --> 01:13:40,159
underneath was this full operation

1861
01:13:43,590 --> 01:13:42,640
underground facility so things can

1862
01:13:46,310 --> 01:13:43,600
happen

1863
01:13:48,229 --> 01:13:46,320
literally in plain sight not only does

1864
01:13:48,950 --> 01:13:48,239
the general public not know and they're

1865
01:13:51,910 --> 01:13:48,960
literally

1866
01:13:53,030 --> 01:13:51,920
walking on it but the elected leaders

1867
01:13:54,709 --> 01:13:53,040
don't know either

1868
01:13:56,470 --> 01:13:54,719
because they just don't have that need

1869
01:13:57,910 --> 01:13:56,480
to know and yeah that was a classic

1870
01:14:00,390 --> 01:13:57,920
scene and one that i think

1871
01:14:01,830 --> 01:14:00,400
definitely rings true well the the air

1872
01:14:03,350 --> 01:14:01,840
force didn't want that scene in the

1873
01:14:05,750 --> 01:14:03,360
movie

1874
01:14:06,950 --> 01:14:05,760
yeah they there was a lot of pushback

1875
01:14:10,790 --> 01:14:06,960
and

1876
01:14:14,550 --> 01:14:10,800
then it was

1877
01:14:15,510 --> 01:14:14,560
after that that uh area 51 was

1878
01:14:19,189 --> 01:14:15,520
officially

1879
01:14:21,189 --> 01:14:19,199
uh disclosed yeah sometimes it's it's

1880
01:14:21,669 --> 01:14:21,199
silly that it takes decades for things

1881
01:14:24,630 --> 01:14:21,679
to be

1882
01:14:25,030 --> 01:14:24,640
acknowledged by on an official capacity

1883
01:14:27,510 --> 01:14:25,040
and

1884
01:14:28,470 --> 01:14:27,520
area 51 is a prime example where they

1885
01:14:30,630 --> 01:14:28,480
had this thing

1886
01:14:32,390 --> 01:14:30,640
in operation since the 1950s and they

1887
01:14:33,510 --> 01:14:32,400
were doing tests of aircraft and so on

1888
01:14:36,709 --> 01:14:33,520
and so forth

1889
01:14:38,229 --> 01:14:36,719
and and obviously it was uh quite a few

1890
01:14:39,350 --> 01:14:38,239
decades thereafter when they finally

1891
01:14:41,189 --> 01:14:39,360
declassified it

1892
01:14:42,790 --> 01:14:41,199
but it does just go to show you that it

1893
01:14:44,470 --> 01:14:42,800
doesn't matter what the public knows or

1894
01:14:45,830 --> 01:14:44,480
doesn't know or think they know or

1895
01:14:47,750 --> 01:14:45,840
think they don't if the government and

1896
01:14:49,590 --> 01:14:47,760
military just doesn't want to tell you

1897
01:14:51,189 --> 01:14:49,600
they're not going to tell you and and

1898
01:14:52,790 --> 01:14:51,199
you can know that it's there you could

1899
01:14:54,390 --> 01:14:52,800
drive up to the gate

1900
01:14:56,070 --> 01:14:54,400
realize that there's a base there and

1901
01:14:57,110 --> 01:14:56,080
they go that sorry you know there's

1902
01:14:59,510 --> 01:14:57,120
nothing there

1903
01:15:00,950 --> 01:14:59,520
and you realize the lengths that they

1904
01:15:02,550 --> 01:15:00,960
will go to to hide something

1905
01:15:04,390 --> 01:15:02,560
even though they know that everyone

1906
01:15:05,990 --> 01:15:04,400
knows that base existed

1907
01:15:07,830 --> 01:15:06,000
when they were trying to cover it up and

1908
01:15:11,990 --> 01:15:07,840
yet they would still hide it

1909
01:15:15,990 --> 01:15:12,000
why do you think um why do you think

1910
01:15:19,350 --> 01:15:16,000
the conversation has shifted now

1911
01:15:21,990 --> 01:15:19,360
to where the public perception is

1912
01:15:23,270 --> 01:15:22,000
the public's perception i want to be

1913
01:15:26,390 --> 01:15:23,280
clear on that

1914
01:15:27,430 --> 01:15:26,400
is that the government is on the verge

1915
01:15:31,510 --> 01:15:27,440
of

1916
01:15:33,350 --> 01:15:31,520
disclosure that this conversation now is

1917
01:15:35,669 --> 01:15:33,360
happening it's happening

1918
01:15:37,030 --> 01:15:35,679
uh on capitol hill it's happening with

1919
01:15:37,830 --> 01:15:37,040
the pentagon it's happening with the

1920
01:15:41,990 --> 01:15:37,840
united states

1921
01:15:45,110 --> 01:15:42,000
navy why why now why

1922
01:15:46,870 --> 01:15:45,120
are they misleading the public in in in

1923
01:15:48,870 --> 01:15:46,880
doing it this way

1924
01:15:49,910 --> 01:15:48,880
it's a it's an interesting question and

1925
01:15:52,630 --> 01:15:49,920
i wrestle with it

1926
01:15:54,149 --> 01:15:52,640
on one hand i don't know where this

1927
01:15:56,390 --> 01:15:54,159
disclosure

1928
01:15:58,870 --> 01:15:56,400
rumor is coming from and it's largely

1929
01:16:00,950 --> 01:15:58,880
fueled by mainstream media

1930
01:16:02,630 --> 01:16:00,960
but they think that marco rubio's

1931
01:16:05,990 --> 01:16:02,640
committee is demanding

1932
01:16:07,830 --> 01:16:06,000
that everything on ufos and uaps be

1933
01:16:09,910 --> 01:16:07,840
disclosed in this public report and

1934
01:16:11,750 --> 01:16:09,920
there's a lot of people excited about it

1935
01:16:13,669 --> 01:16:11,760
and i won't lie i'm excited too i want

1936
01:16:15,510 --> 01:16:13,679
to see what they're going to say

1937
01:16:18,149 --> 01:16:15,520
but there's only part of that that's

1938
01:16:19,669 --> 01:16:18,159
true they're not mandating that anything

1939
01:16:23,030 --> 01:16:19,679
is declassified

1940
01:16:24,630 --> 01:16:23,040
in fact if you read what rubio wrote and

1941
01:16:25,990 --> 01:16:24,640
what they're asking for yes it's a

1942
01:16:27,750 --> 01:16:26,000
public report

1943
01:16:30,630 --> 01:16:27,760
but they're allowing for a classified

1944
01:16:33,750 --> 01:16:30,640
annex and i recently did a video on my

1945
01:16:35,830 --> 01:16:33,760
youtube channel where i dug up public

1946
01:16:36,950 --> 01:16:35,840
reports created by the director of

1947
01:16:39,750 --> 01:16:36,960
national intelligence

1948
01:16:42,550 --> 01:16:39,760
the dni same that's going to be heading

1949
01:16:45,189 --> 01:16:42,560
the uap task force report that's

1950
01:16:45,750 --> 01:16:45,199
that we're all hoping for and it wasn't

1951
01:16:48,070 --> 01:16:45,760
uap

1952
01:16:49,750 --> 01:16:48,080
related but rather i was showing what a

1953
01:16:51,350 --> 01:16:49,760
public report looks like with a

1954
01:16:53,430 --> 01:16:51,360
classified annex

1955
01:16:54,630 --> 01:16:53,440
and you see a little bit of information

1956
01:16:56,390 --> 01:16:54,640
on the page

1957
01:16:58,470 --> 01:16:56,400
but then at the bottom of like every

1958
01:16:59,750 --> 01:16:58,480
paragraph is additional information in

1959
01:17:01,350 --> 01:16:59,760
the classified annex

1960
01:17:03,030 --> 01:17:01,360
you know then you read some additional

1961
01:17:05,590 --> 01:17:03,040
information on classified annex

1962
01:17:06,470 --> 01:17:05,600
what i was trying to show was let's be

1963
01:17:08,550 --> 01:17:06,480
excited

1964
01:17:09,750 --> 01:17:08,560
but let's not blow this up to something

1965
01:17:11,510 --> 01:17:09,760
that it's not

1966
01:17:13,350 --> 01:17:11,520
i do not believe they are going to go

1967
01:17:15,990 --> 01:17:13,360
and declassify these

1968
01:17:18,149 --> 01:17:16,000
closely guarded secrets should they be

1969
01:17:20,630 --> 01:17:18,159
should they be there

1970
01:17:22,310 --> 01:17:20,640
you know to begin with i just don't see

1971
01:17:25,590 --> 01:17:22,320
it i think that we will see

1972
01:17:26,870 --> 01:17:25,600
a heavily fluffed up version of what we

1973
01:17:31,990 --> 01:17:26,880
already know

1974
01:17:33,830 --> 01:17:32,000
fast and gimbal videos that are

1975
01:17:35,189 --> 01:17:33,840
considered unidentified they officially

1976
01:17:36,870 --> 01:17:35,199
released them

1977
01:17:38,310 --> 01:17:36,880
and now these these new ones which i

1978
01:17:40,070 --> 01:17:38,320
know we'll get to in the show

1979
01:17:42,950 --> 01:17:40,080
but just in the last week or two where

1980
01:17:47,189 --> 01:17:42,960
you've got additional photographs

1981
01:17:50,950 --> 01:17:47,199
you've got a an alleged pyramid video

1982
01:17:52,070 --> 01:17:50,960
and all of that just leaks out

1983
01:17:54,070 --> 01:17:52,080
we're not really seeing any

1984
01:17:57,110 --> 01:17:54,080
repercussions at least not yet i

1985
01:17:58,550 --> 01:17:57,120
i'm i mean it's not a big secret i'm

1986
01:18:00,070 --> 01:17:58,560
sure people can assume

1987
01:18:01,590 --> 01:18:00,080
i'm going after to see if they're

1988
01:18:03,430 --> 01:18:01,600
investigating this

1989
01:18:05,189 --> 01:18:03,440
so i'm less concerned at this point

1990
01:18:06,630 --> 01:18:05,199
about what that video really is because

1991
01:18:08,470 --> 01:18:06,640
people are arguing about it

1992
01:18:10,470 --> 01:18:08,480
i'm pretty convinced it's explainable

1993
01:18:11,030 --> 01:18:10,480
but that's well i'm sure we'll get into

1994
01:18:14,390 --> 01:18:11,040
that

1995
01:18:17,030 --> 01:18:14,400
this came from a

1996
01:18:19,270 --> 01:18:17,040
classified report even though the

1997
01:18:22,790 --> 01:18:19,280
material or the photograph itself

1998
01:18:24,390 --> 01:18:22,800
is unclassified you still need to have a

1999
01:18:26,790 --> 01:18:24,400
review to let it out

2000
01:18:28,470 --> 01:18:26,800
and if that review did not take place

2001
01:18:31,510 --> 01:18:28,480
there is an investigation

2002
01:18:33,110 --> 01:18:31,520
i'll give you a prime example and proof

2003
01:18:34,950 --> 01:18:33,120
of why i say that

2004
01:18:36,870 --> 01:18:34,960
the three videos that were leaked out by

2005
01:18:39,350 --> 01:18:36,880
to the stars academy the fleer

2006
01:18:41,669 --> 01:18:39,360
gimbal and go fast we know that they

2007
01:18:43,669 --> 01:18:41,679
were unclassified from the get-go i got

2008
01:18:45,510 --> 01:18:43,679
that in writing from the navy

2009
01:18:47,030 --> 01:18:45,520
uh they were unclassified from the

2010
01:18:48,630 --> 01:18:47,040
moment they were captured on those

2011
01:18:49,910 --> 01:18:48,640
cameras at least that's what the navy

2012
01:18:52,070 --> 01:18:49,920
says

2013
01:18:55,030 --> 01:18:52,080
they were only supposed to be used for

2014
01:18:58,630 --> 01:18:55,040
internal use only and there was an

2015
01:18:59,030 --> 01:18:58,640
investigation that was done about how it

2016
01:19:02,870 --> 01:18:59,040
all

2017
01:19:05,430 --> 01:19:02,880
the air force office of special

2018
01:19:07,510 --> 01:19:05,440
investigations did that

2019
01:19:08,950 --> 01:19:07,520
did that investigation and i think

2020
01:19:12,550 --> 01:19:08,960
originally that was posted in

2021
01:19:14,630 --> 01:19:12,560
popular mechanics i believe um

2022
01:19:16,310 --> 01:19:14,640
or vice news one of them tim mcmillan

2023
01:19:16,950 --> 01:19:16,320
was the journalist who dug that report

2024
01:19:19,110 --> 01:19:16,960
up so

2025
01:19:20,229 --> 01:19:19,120
credit to him for that afosi

2026
01:19:23,189 --> 01:19:20,239
investigation

2027
01:19:24,070 --> 01:19:23,199
but my whole point is that when stuff

2028
01:19:27,669 --> 01:19:24,080
leaks out

2029
01:19:29,830 --> 01:19:27,679
even at the unclassified level

2030
01:19:31,350 --> 01:19:29,840
it needs to have a review and they do

2031
01:19:33,669 --> 01:19:31,360
take it seriously

2032
01:19:35,590 --> 01:19:33,679
and when you look at that we know for a

2033
01:19:36,390 --> 01:19:35,600
fact they investigated those first three

2034
01:19:39,030 --> 01:19:36,400
videos

2035
01:19:41,110 --> 01:19:39,040
and it it's pretty clear as day that

2036
01:19:41,669 --> 01:19:41,120
they had talked to luis elizondo about

2037
01:19:45,270 --> 01:19:41,679
it

2038
01:19:47,189 --> 01:19:45,280
mistake

2039
01:19:49,110 --> 01:19:47,199
that should have never happened the

2040
01:19:51,750 --> 01:19:49,120
pentagon took the blame

2041
01:19:52,390 --> 01:19:51,760
which i'm also intrigued by but that's

2042
01:19:55,030 --> 01:19:52,400
another

2043
01:19:55,430 --> 01:19:55,040
discussion they said it was their fault

2044
01:19:57,750 --> 01:19:55,440
not

2045
01:19:59,990 --> 01:19:57,760
luis elizondo or or any of their

2046
01:20:03,350 --> 01:20:00,000
employees that were outside

2047
01:20:03,990 --> 01:20:03,360
um quote unquote disseminating it rather

2048
01:20:07,430 --> 01:20:04,000
it was

2049
01:20:10,629 --> 01:20:07,440
the pentagon's fault

2050
01:20:12,470 --> 01:20:10,639
so they do these investigations and yet

2051
01:20:16,149 --> 01:20:12,480
it was so easy

2052
01:20:17,669 --> 01:20:16,159
uh to my surprise within uh 48 hours

2053
01:20:19,590 --> 01:20:17,679
to get the pentagon to go on the record

2054
01:20:21,910 --> 01:20:19,600
and go yep those are

2055
01:20:24,070 --> 01:20:21,920
real and the navy took them now real in

2056
01:20:26,629 --> 01:20:24,080
the sense that they're genuine

2057
01:20:28,310 --> 01:20:26,639
but they would not commit to that they

2058
01:20:30,830 --> 01:20:28,320
were unidentified

2059
01:20:32,550 --> 01:20:30,840
and that's the key that most people are

2060
01:20:34,070 --> 01:20:32,560
missing and it's like

2061
01:20:37,110 --> 01:20:34,080
they hear that they're genuine and it's

2062
01:20:40,070 --> 01:20:37,120
aha they admitted that their pentagon

2063
01:20:41,990 --> 01:20:40,080
pyramid ufos and they have these videos

2064
01:20:43,510 --> 01:20:42,000
well again we're making a part of the

2065
01:20:45,430 --> 01:20:43,520
evidence the only thing that they

2066
01:20:46,550 --> 01:20:45,440
that they admitted to was that they were

2067
01:20:49,590 --> 01:20:46,560
taken by navy

2068
01:20:51,510 --> 01:20:49,600
personnel and they are being utilized by

2069
01:20:53,830 --> 01:20:51,520
the uap task force

2070
01:20:55,030 --> 01:20:53,840
so these things these things are

2071
01:20:57,189 --> 01:20:55,040
investigated they just

2072
01:20:59,750 --> 01:20:57,199
are i mean that's what history shows us

2073
01:21:01,510 --> 01:20:59,760
even at a unclassified level

2074
01:21:03,110 --> 01:21:01,520
when stuff is considered what they call

2075
01:21:04,870 --> 01:21:03,120
for official use only

2076
01:21:07,990 --> 01:21:04,880
that's not considered classified

2077
01:21:11,350 --> 01:21:08,000
information but it could still be exempt

2078
01:21:13,590 --> 01:21:11,360
from disclosure and what that means is

2079
01:21:15,590 --> 01:21:13,600
you have nine foia exemptions

2080
01:21:16,629 --> 01:21:15,600
and that's essentially your menu to

2081
01:21:20,070 --> 01:21:16,639
choose

2082
01:21:21,990 --> 01:21:20,080
on why you're gonna withhold information

2083
01:21:24,550 --> 01:21:22,000
if the information does not fit into any

2084
01:21:25,430 --> 01:21:24,560
of the nine then foia allows it to go

2085
01:21:27,990 --> 01:21:25,440
out

2086
01:21:28,950 --> 01:21:28,000
and that review never took place on the

2087
01:21:31,189 --> 01:21:28,960
leaked material

2088
01:21:31,990 --> 01:21:31,199
so unclassified or not that doesn't

2089
01:21:34,310 --> 01:21:32,000
matter

2090
01:21:35,590 --> 01:21:34,320
that will in my opinion that'll likely

2091
01:21:39,430 --> 01:21:35,600
be investigated

2092
01:21:43,110 --> 01:21:39,440
now how does

2093
01:21:43,910 --> 01:21:43,120
a video like that that is part of a

2094
01:21:47,270 --> 01:21:43,920
report

2095
01:21:50,229 --> 01:21:47,280
getting ready and prepped for congress

2096
01:21:52,070 --> 01:21:50,239
how does that get leaked yeah your guess

2097
01:21:52,790 --> 01:21:52,080
is as good as mine because the other

2098
01:21:55,590 --> 01:21:52,800
part

2099
01:21:56,950 --> 01:21:55,600
of where i wrestle with this is is this

2100
01:22:00,229 --> 01:21:56,960
intentional

2101
01:22:02,070 --> 01:22:00,239
right and and and was this was this

2102
01:22:04,229 --> 01:22:02,080
intentionally leaked out

2103
01:22:06,310 --> 01:22:04,239
i mean my theory since december on this

2104
01:22:07,590 --> 01:22:06,320
leaked what they call the batman photo

2105
01:22:09,110 --> 01:22:07,600
the batman balloon photo

2106
01:22:10,870 --> 01:22:09,120
right that's kind of how everybody

2107
01:22:13,189 --> 01:22:10,880
references it so excuse the the

2108
01:22:16,149 --> 01:22:13,199
reference that way but

2109
01:22:18,629 --> 01:22:16,159
when i when i first saw that we know

2110
01:22:19,030 --> 01:22:18,639
project blue book in the 1950s and 60s

2111
01:22:21,990 --> 01:22:19,040
had

2112
01:22:23,669 --> 01:22:22,000
a primer a rosetta stone that they would

2113
01:22:26,870 --> 01:22:23,679
reference of

2114
01:22:28,350 --> 01:22:26,880
weather balloons of aircraft of things

2115
01:22:32,390 --> 01:22:28,360
that were flying in the sky

2116
01:22:34,709 --> 01:22:32,400
astronomical objects celestial objects

2117
01:22:36,870 --> 01:22:34,719
all things that they could reference to

2118
01:22:39,189 --> 01:22:36,880
start saying okay this person

2119
01:22:41,510 --> 01:22:39,199
recollected seeing x y and z all that

2120
01:22:44,790 --> 01:22:41,520
that maybe is the planet venus or

2121
01:22:46,870 --> 01:22:44,800
you know whatever it might be swamp gas

2122
01:22:49,350 --> 01:22:46,880
we know that for a fact so we can we can

2123
01:22:52,390 --> 01:22:49,360
look back at a verifiable history

2124
01:22:55,110 --> 01:22:52,400
and now look at new material coming out

2125
01:22:56,149 --> 01:22:55,120
is this truly unidentified to the united

2126
01:22:58,229 --> 01:22:56,159
states government

2127
01:22:59,189 --> 01:22:58,239
and there are too many assumptions to

2128
01:23:00,950 --> 01:22:59,199
say yes

2129
01:23:02,870 --> 01:23:00,960
to my surprise those three videos the

2130
01:23:05,030 --> 01:23:02,880
navy said are unidentified

2131
01:23:05,990 --> 01:23:05,040
so those don't fit into what i'm about

2132
01:23:07,669 --> 01:23:06,000
to say

2133
01:23:09,990 --> 01:23:07,679
but we don't know about these

2134
01:23:12,470 --> 01:23:10,000
photographs that are being utilized

2135
01:23:13,590 --> 01:23:12,480
by the uap task force and where i'm

2136
01:23:15,669 --> 01:23:13,600
going with this is

2137
01:23:17,350 --> 01:23:15,679
it is quite possible that they're

2138
01:23:19,510 --> 01:23:17,360
allowing this stuff to leak out

2139
01:23:20,870 --> 01:23:19,520
or just don't care one of the two

2140
01:23:21,910 --> 01:23:20,880
because it's all stuff that they've

2141
01:23:23,910 --> 01:23:21,920
identified

2142
01:23:25,669 --> 01:23:23,920
that maybe a pilot saw they didn't know

2143
01:23:27,510 --> 01:23:25,679
at the time it was a balloon

2144
01:23:28,709 --> 01:23:27,520
or maybe they thought man look at that

2145
01:23:31,510 --> 01:23:28,719
balloon it's all the way up here

2146
01:23:34,709 --> 01:23:31,520
whatever it might be we have no context

2147
01:23:37,350 --> 01:23:34,719
whatsoever and yet people are making up

2148
01:23:38,070 --> 01:23:37,360
that context going up see this is ufo

2149
01:23:40,149 --> 01:23:38,080
stuff

2150
01:23:42,310 --> 01:23:40,159
well not necessarily and if you read

2151
01:23:46,629 --> 01:23:42,320
into the pentagon statements

2152
01:23:49,030 --> 01:23:46,639
they say that uh objects are often

2153
01:23:50,950 --> 01:23:49,040
and i'm paraphrasing this part but often

2154
01:23:54,229 --> 01:23:50,960
categorized as uap

2155
01:23:55,990 --> 01:23:54,239
but to be later identified but and

2156
01:23:58,229 --> 01:23:56,000
they've made that reference quite a few

2157
01:24:00,790 --> 01:23:58,239
times that they investigate those things

2158
01:24:02,310 --> 01:24:00,800
even though they were originally thought

2159
01:24:04,629 --> 01:24:02,320
to be uap

2160
01:24:06,070 --> 01:24:04,639
but obviously later determined not to be

2161
01:24:06,709 --> 01:24:06,080
i'm wondering if that's what we're

2162
01:24:08,870 --> 01:24:06,719
seeing

2163
01:24:09,830 --> 01:24:08,880
i'm wondering if these are balloons and

2164
01:24:12,070 --> 01:24:09,840
drones

2165
01:24:13,669 --> 01:24:12,080
and you know i'll probably get hate mail

2166
01:24:15,510 --> 01:24:13,679
for saying this but

2167
01:24:17,430 --> 01:24:15,520
it's really odd that the original

2168
01:24:18,950 --> 01:24:17,440
paperwork describing the gimbal the

2169
01:24:22,709 --> 01:24:18,960
fleer and the go fast

2170
01:24:24,950 --> 01:24:22,719
say drones and balloons the exact

2171
01:24:25,750 --> 01:24:24,960
argument that we're seeing now with new

2172
01:24:28,310 --> 01:24:25,760
material

2173
01:24:28,950 --> 01:24:28,320
leaked out and it's it's drones and

2174
01:24:31,430 --> 01:24:28,960
balloons

2175
01:24:32,310 --> 01:24:31,440
and and very convincing arguments of

2176
01:24:35,510 --> 01:24:32,320
such

2177
01:24:37,270 --> 01:24:35,520
and and so i you know is this just

2178
01:24:39,910 --> 01:24:37,280
is this part of a disinformation

2179
01:24:41,030 --> 01:24:39,920
campaign not to sound conspiratorial but

2180
01:24:43,189 --> 01:24:41,040
it makes sense

2181
01:24:44,950 --> 01:24:43,199
from an intelligence standpoint just let

2182
01:24:46,790 --> 01:24:44,960
that stuff go out there just

2183
01:24:49,910 --> 01:24:46,800
keep throwing it out there let people

2184
01:24:52,870 --> 01:24:49,920
start going hog wild with these theories

2185
01:24:54,149 --> 01:24:52,880
and then when you look at foreign powers

2186
01:24:56,709 --> 01:24:54,159
our adversaries and

2187
01:24:58,310 --> 01:24:56,719
you know even our allies they they look

2188
01:24:59,750 --> 01:24:58,320
at that and go wow are the americans

2189
01:25:02,790 --> 01:24:59,760
really that dumb

2190
01:25:05,590 --> 01:25:02,800
like can they not identify a drone a

2191
01:25:07,750 --> 01:25:05,600
balloon a blimp or whatever

2192
01:25:09,270 --> 01:25:07,760
do they not realize that this is just a

2193
01:25:12,790 --> 01:25:09,280
camera artifact

2194
01:25:14,830 --> 01:25:12,800
and so it creates such confusion

2195
01:25:16,390 --> 01:25:14,840
to me that is the definition of

2196
01:25:18,229 --> 01:25:16,400
counterintelligence

2197
01:25:20,229 --> 01:25:18,239
you know you want to make sure that you

2198
01:25:21,590 --> 01:25:20,239
can't get infiltrated in the sense that

2199
01:25:24,629 --> 01:25:21,600
they understand

2200
01:25:27,430 --> 01:25:24,639
what you know so you throw so much mud

2201
01:25:28,229 --> 01:25:27,440
out there that no one knows what to

2202
01:25:30,470 --> 01:25:28,239
think anymore

2203
01:25:31,430 --> 01:25:30,480
general public foreign intelligence

2204
01:25:34,149 --> 01:25:31,440
agencies

2205
01:25:35,270 --> 01:25:34,159
nothing and here's where i'll really get

2206
01:25:39,030 --> 01:25:35,280
hate mail

2207
01:25:41,270 --> 01:25:39,040
counter intelligence officer ran a tip

2208
01:25:42,629 --> 01:25:41,280
so when you start putting all of those

2209
01:25:46,629 --> 01:25:42,639
pieces together

2210
01:25:49,350 --> 01:25:46,639
can you can you discount it and i can't

2211
01:25:51,750 --> 01:25:49,360
i i honestly i can't there's there's

2212
01:25:53,669 --> 01:25:51,760
there's no evidence to show that

2213
01:25:56,070 --> 01:25:53,679
that they're not playing a game the

2214
01:25:56,950 --> 01:25:56,080
pentagon that the department of defense

2215
01:25:59,189 --> 01:25:56,960
is not

2216
01:26:01,350 --> 01:25:59,199
playing a game why won't they say if

2217
01:26:04,149 --> 01:26:01,360
these are unidentified

2218
01:26:05,270 --> 01:26:04,159
is that in itself classified i don't

2219
01:26:08,229 --> 01:26:05,280
think it would be

2220
01:26:10,709 --> 01:26:08,239
it's just a designation and yet they are

2221
01:26:14,070 --> 01:26:10,719
are strategically holding that back

2222
01:26:15,030 --> 01:26:14,080
why well and they know they know what

2223
01:26:18,070 --> 01:26:15,040
the media

2224
01:26:21,350 --> 01:26:18,080
has been doing in this last week uh

2225
01:26:24,470 --> 01:26:21,360
with this story flying pyramids right

2226
01:26:27,350 --> 01:26:24,480
pentagon confirms ufo video

2227
01:26:29,030 --> 01:26:27,360
over and over again worldwide the

2228
01:26:31,270 --> 01:26:29,040
biggest media outlets

2229
01:26:32,629 --> 01:26:31,280
have covered the story with that

2230
01:26:36,229 --> 01:26:32,639
headline with that

2231
01:26:37,669 --> 01:26:36,239
verbiage freaking out the public

2232
01:26:39,030 --> 01:26:37,679
and they haven't stepped forward and

2233
01:26:40,950 --> 01:26:39,040
said hey wait a minute wait a minute

2234
01:26:43,030 --> 01:26:40,960
wait we need to clarify we said once

2235
01:26:45,830 --> 01:26:43,040
before let's say it again

2236
01:26:46,950 --> 01:26:45,840
those are not flying pyramids we just

2237
01:26:50,229 --> 01:26:46,960
shot a video

2238
01:26:52,390 --> 01:26:50,239
of some drones but they haven't

2239
01:26:54,629 --> 01:26:52,400
and they're allowing the story to

2240
01:26:57,189 --> 01:26:54,639
continue to go viral

2241
01:26:58,709 --> 01:26:57,199
yeah and and that's what confuses me

2242
01:27:01,830 --> 01:26:58,719
because you would think that

2243
01:27:02,390 --> 01:27:01,840
if if there was a explanation or

2244
01:27:04,149 --> 01:27:02,400
something

2245
01:27:05,990 --> 01:27:04,159
else that they could offer that they

2246
01:27:08,550 --> 01:27:06,000
would and it's like they want to give

2247
01:27:10,790 --> 01:27:08,560
the very bare minimum

2248
01:27:11,830 --> 01:27:10,800
but even that bare minimum came really

2249
01:27:13,590 --> 01:27:11,840
easy

2250
01:27:15,350 --> 01:27:13,600
you know and that's what confuses the

2251
01:27:17,189 --> 01:27:15,360
entire thing why was it so easy when

2252
01:27:19,270 --> 01:27:17,199
they're so clammed up

2253
01:27:20,709 --> 01:27:19,280
about so many other questions that are

2254
01:27:23,030 --> 01:27:20,719
still lingering right

2255
01:27:24,950 --> 01:27:23,040
and then this material allegedly leaks

2256
01:27:27,830 --> 01:27:24,960
out from a classified

2257
01:27:28,709 --> 01:27:27,840
briefing and within two days i got the

2258
01:27:31,189 --> 01:27:28,719
response

2259
01:27:32,390 --> 01:27:31,199
i mean i got that late late on on friday

2260
01:27:35,350 --> 01:27:32,400
uh was when i

2261
01:27:36,950 --> 01:27:35,360
wrote that article and and then saturday

2262
01:27:38,790 --> 01:27:36,960
it really kind of blew up throughout

2263
01:27:42,229 --> 01:27:38,800
different media outlets

2264
01:27:44,950 --> 01:27:42,239
but why like what so many things are

2265
01:27:46,229 --> 01:27:44,960
so difficult it's like pulling teeth to

2266
01:27:50,470 --> 01:27:46,239
get answers

2267
01:27:53,750 --> 01:27:50,480
why was it so easy to get this

2268
01:27:55,750 --> 01:27:53,760
confirmation that they're genuine taken

2269
01:27:57,590 --> 01:27:55,760
by navy personnel and utilized by the

2270
01:27:59,189 --> 01:27:57,600
uaptf

2271
01:28:01,270 --> 01:27:59,199
i don't have an answer for any of that

2272
01:28:03,990 --> 01:28:01,280
i'm just saying it's fascinating

2273
01:28:05,990 --> 01:28:04,000
to look at that because i have lingering

2274
01:28:09,270 --> 01:28:06,000
questions that have now gone on

2275
01:28:12,310 --> 01:28:09,280
months with the same spokesperson that

2276
01:28:13,189 --> 01:28:12,320
that that authenticated those photos and

2277
01:28:16,629 --> 01:28:13,199
the video

2278
01:28:18,870 --> 01:28:16,639
to me so why are we skipping around

2279
01:28:20,070 --> 01:28:18,880
and my other questions aren't lingering

2280
01:28:23,030 --> 01:28:20,080
uh into

2281
01:28:24,790 --> 01:28:23,040
uh classified briefing territory so i

2282
01:28:25,270 --> 01:28:24,800
would think that i would get answers to

2283
01:28:27,669 --> 01:28:25,280
those

2284
01:28:29,750 --> 01:28:27,679
questions first rather than something

2285
01:28:32,229 --> 01:28:29,760
that again teeters into that

2286
01:28:33,910 --> 01:28:32,239
uh classified briefing area and why i

2287
01:28:34,870 --> 01:28:33,920
say that is when you get into classified

2288
01:28:38,550 --> 01:28:34,880
information

2289
01:28:42,310 --> 01:28:38,560
they become very very very careful

2290
01:28:43,430 --> 01:28:42,320
on how they uh address everything and

2291
01:28:44,390 --> 01:28:43,440
that's why there's a little bit of

2292
01:28:46,870 --> 01:28:44,400
confusion on

2293
01:28:48,709 --> 01:28:46,880
did she authenticate the slides

2294
01:28:49,669 --> 01:28:48,719
themselves where the photographs came

2295
01:28:52,070 --> 01:28:49,679
from

2296
01:28:54,390 --> 01:28:52,080
now uh many people have asked me did i

2297
01:28:56,310 --> 01:28:54,400
ask her about those the answer is yes

2298
01:28:58,870 --> 01:28:56,320
i specifically asked her about the

2299
01:29:01,030 --> 01:28:58,880
photos the video and the slides

2300
01:29:02,870 --> 01:29:01,040
she won't comment on that information

2301
01:29:05,189 --> 01:29:02,880
when it comes to the names of the

2302
01:29:06,390 --> 01:29:05,199
the ships and so on simply because i

2303
01:29:08,550 --> 01:29:06,400
think that that

2304
01:29:09,669 --> 01:29:08,560
may even though it's marked as

2305
01:29:12,550 --> 01:29:09,679
unclassified

2306
01:29:13,430 --> 01:29:12,560
could potentially be exempt for numerous

2307
01:29:16,310 --> 01:29:13,440
reasons

2308
01:29:17,430 --> 01:29:16,320
so i think she just probably will won't

2309
01:29:19,350 --> 01:29:17,440
address the slide

2310
01:29:21,030 --> 01:29:19,360
information i know that gets a little

2311
01:29:23,750 --> 01:29:21,040
technical and confusing

2312
01:29:24,709 --> 01:29:23,760
but the photograph doesn't tell you what

2313
01:29:27,750 --> 01:29:24,719
ship

2314
01:29:30,310 --> 01:29:27,760
shot the video where they were and so on

2315
01:29:31,189 --> 01:29:30,320
the information in the slides could

2316
01:29:33,270 --> 01:29:31,199
potentially be

2317
01:29:34,790 --> 01:29:33,280
be damning to national security so

2318
01:29:36,790 --> 01:29:34,800
that's when they kind of clam up

2319
01:29:37,990 --> 01:29:36,800
so that's where i think the confusion is

2320
01:29:39,510 --> 01:29:38,000
other than that

2321
01:29:41,590 --> 01:29:39,520
she authenticated them she just won't

2322
01:29:43,430 --> 01:29:41,600
give the designation and i'm

2323
01:29:45,189 --> 01:29:43,440
i'm really at this point thinking

2324
01:29:47,590 --> 01:29:45,199
there's something else going on

2325
01:29:49,350 --> 01:29:47,600
because there's no rhyme or reason why

2326
01:29:51,590 --> 01:29:49,360
some answers come

2327
01:29:53,189 --> 01:29:51,600
others will come very easily and others

2328
01:29:53,669 --> 01:29:53,199
are like pulling teeth and you just want

2329
01:29:54,790 --> 01:29:53,679
to quit

2330
01:29:57,510 --> 01:29:54,800
and throw your monitor through the

2331
01:29:59,990 --> 01:29:57,520
window because it's so frustrating

2332
01:30:01,750 --> 01:30:00,000
fascinating fascinating great work john

2333
01:30:03,030 --> 01:30:01,760
will continue this conversation right

2334
01:30:04,790 --> 01:30:03,040
after the break

2335
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this is fade to black i'm yours timmy

2336
01:30:07,590 --> 01:30:06,560
church tonight john greenwald of the

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black vault

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we're talking about those u.s navy

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videos and images

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that were just leaked more on all of

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john greenwald of the black vault more

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2443
01:35:28,550 --> 01:35:23,920
greenwald now john

2444
01:35:32,070 --> 01:35:28,560
back to the videos

2445
01:35:36,149 --> 01:35:32,080
did you um uh

2446
01:35:39,350 --> 01:35:36,159
did you ask the pentagon directly um

2447
01:35:42,310 --> 01:35:39,360
if they

2448
01:35:44,310 --> 01:35:42,320
can confirm that these are uaps or ufos

2449
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or something off-world

2450
01:35:49,109 --> 01:35:47,440
yes and that was i in my original

2451
01:35:51,430 --> 01:35:49,119
and a follow-up and they would not

2452
01:35:55,750 --> 01:35:51,440
answer it

2453
01:35:59,430 --> 01:35:55,760
the the the release that you did

2454
01:36:03,350 --> 01:35:59,440
which also equally as viral

2455
01:36:06,629 --> 01:36:03,360
as the videos themselves is

2456
01:36:09,669 --> 01:36:06,639
by you confirming that the

2457
01:36:13,030 --> 01:36:09,679
pentagon said the videos are real

2458
01:36:16,149 --> 01:36:13,040
that allowed everybody out there to go

2459
01:36:17,910 --> 01:36:16,159
and pick up on your i'm wondering if you

2460
01:36:20,470 --> 01:36:17,920
carry a little bit of guilt

2461
01:36:21,270 --> 01:36:20,480
with this because everybody ran with

2462
01:36:24,790 --> 01:36:21,280
this

2463
01:36:27,990 --> 01:36:24,800
right that the pentagon has confirmed

2464
01:36:31,510 --> 01:36:28,000
uh ufos that they videoed ufos they

2465
01:36:35,109 --> 01:36:31,520
altered your uh

2466
01:36:42,149 --> 01:36:38,149
well i'm talking about cbs nbc

2467
01:36:45,669 --> 01:36:42,159
fox uh abc uh

2468
01:36:48,709 --> 01:36:45,679
australia the uk uh

2469
01:36:50,790 --> 01:36:48,719
the the actual statement

2470
01:36:52,870 --> 01:36:50,800
has been altered and is now part of the

2471
01:36:55,430 --> 01:36:52,880
public record

2472
01:36:56,709 --> 01:36:55,440
well here's what i'd say i mean a lot of

2473
01:36:57,910 --> 01:36:56,719
i think a lot of journalists went after

2474
01:36:58,950 --> 01:36:57,920
this statement so i don't want to

2475
01:37:01,350 --> 01:36:58,960
necessarily say

2476
01:37:03,189 --> 01:37:01,360
it was mine i'm happy to say that i was

2477
01:37:04,149 --> 01:37:03,199
the first to get it out there on friday

2478
01:37:06,709 --> 01:37:04,159
and

2479
01:37:08,790 --> 01:37:06,719
uh to the credit of a few media outlets

2480
01:37:10,950 --> 01:37:08,800
they cited it back to me as breaking

2481
01:37:12,709 --> 01:37:10,960
that story and when i see media outlets

2482
01:37:14,629 --> 01:37:12,719
do that i do appreciate it

2483
01:37:15,990 --> 01:37:14,639
because i try to do it when others break

2484
01:37:19,590 --> 01:37:16,000
a story uh

2485
01:37:22,629 --> 01:37:19,600
so that being said i mean it wasn't mine

2486
01:37:26,310 --> 01:37:22,639
but what i did try to do very

2487
01:37:29,030 --> 01:37:26,320
very carefully was was say

2488
01:37:29,750 --> 01:37:29,040
they did not say they were unidentified

2489
01:37:31,669 --> 01:37:29,760
uh here's

2490
01:37:32,790 --> 01:37:31,679
here let me just read you the one line

2491
01:37:35,669 --> 01:37:32,800
from my original

2492
01:37:37,189 --> 01:37:35,679
article that friday night which started

2493
01:37:38,310 --> 01:37:37,199
it all for some of the media outlets

2494
01:37:40,790 --> 01:37:38,320
again others

2495
01:37:42,310 --> 01:37:40,800
went their own way and have no idea that

2496
01:37:44,470 --> 01:37:42,320
i even published this

2497
01:37:46,870 --> 01:37:44,480
but this is what i said however goff

2498
01:37:49,430 --> 01:37:46,880
refused to confirm whether they remain

2499
01:37:50,390 --> 01:37:49,440
unidentified or are used as training

2500
01:37:53,430 --> 01:37:50,400
material

2501
01:37:56,950 --> 01:37:53,440
for identifiable objects or just

2502
01:37:59,590 --> 01:37:56,960
simply remain unknowns altogether so uh

2503
01:38:01,109 --> 01:37:59,600
and what she says when i asked her about

2504
01:38:03,590 --> 01:38:01,119
that her quote was i have nothing

2505
01:38:06,550 --> 01:38:03,600
further for you beyond what i provided

2506
01:38:08,229 --> 01:38:06,560
which was a denial to go into what the

2507
01:38:10,629 --> 01:38:08,239
designation was

2508
01:38:13,430 --> 01:38:10,639
so i tried to put that in the article

2509
01:38:16,790 --> 01:38:13,440
you know like everything she wrote me

2510
01:38:18,310 --> 01:38:16,800
is there i did i i

2511
01:38:20,470 --> 01:38:18,320
i i'm not trying to just keep

2512
01:38:22,070 --> 01:38:20,480
referencing my my video channel so i

2513
01:38:22,390 --> 01:38:22,080
apologize jimmy i'm not trying to do

2514
01:38:26,310 --> 01:38:22,400
that

2515
01:38:29,109 --> 01:38:26,320
dude push it say it again

2516
01:38:30,470 --> 01:38:29,119
i mean it's important it's important

2517
01:38:32,470 --> 01:38:30,480
what i did with

2518
01:38:33,830 --> 01:38:32,480
one video was i had a lot of fun uh

2519
01:38:36,149 --> 01:38:33,840
there's a journalist investigative

2520
01:38:38,390 --> 01:38:36,159
journalist by the name of brett tingley

2521
01:38:40,550 --> 01:38:38,400
and i cleared it with him before and

2522
01:38:42,790 --> 01:38:40,560
what i did was i made kind of a

2523
01:38:44,709 --> 01:38:42,800
a thought experiment where if i were to

2524
01:38:47,590 --> 01:38:44,719
write a story

2525
01:38:48,550 --> 01:38:47,600
i would be completely factual and not

2526
01:38:51,590 --> 01:38:48,560
lie but i

2527
01:38:54,149 --> 01:38:51,600
omitted certain details and

2528
01:38:55,990 --> 01:38:54,159
i mean i made brett this you know

2529
01:38:57,189 --> 01:38:56,000
anonymous source who leaked me

2530
01:38:58,629 --> 01:38:57,199
information and

2531
01:39:01,350 --> 01:38:58,639
all this stuff and i made a story all

2532
01:39:04,070 --> 01:39:01,360
around it was 100 entirely accurate

2533
01:39:04,470 --> 01:39:04,080
but the context was wrong and my point

2534
01:39:06,470 --> 01:39:04,480
here

2535
01:39:08,390 --> 01:39:06,480
is that by the omission of certain

2536
01:39:10,870 --> 01:39:08,400
details to a story

2537
01:39:11,990 --> 01:39:10,880
you can spin an entirely different

2538
01:39:14,310 --> 01:39:12,000
narrative

2539
01:39:16,390 --> 01:39:14,320
and you're still being truthful you're

2540
01:39:19,270 --> 01:39:16,400
just not being fully open

2541
01:39:21,189 --> 01:39:19,280
you're not reporting the entire picture

2542
01:39:23,510 --> 01:39:21,199
and it was really fascinating to hear

2543
01:39:25,669 --> 01:39:23,520
people's reactions to it because again

2544
01:39:26,709 --> 01:39:25,679
when you i had a slide with all my

2545
01:39:29,270 --> 01:39:26,719
different points

2546
01:39:30,790 --> 01:39:29,280
but i omitted certain details and then i

2547
01:39:31,590 --> 01:39:30,800
went back to the slide and then filled

2548
01:39:33,030 --> 01:39:31,600
them all in

2549
01:39:35,350 --> 01:39:33,040
and you could see it was a totally

2550
01:39:36,390 --> 01:39:35,360
different story that's what's going on

2551
01:39:39,270 --> 01:39:36,400
now

2552
01:39:40,070 --> 01:39:39,280
pentagon admits that the the pyramid ufo

2553
01:39:42,870 --> 01:39:40,080
video is

2554
01:39:44,870 --> 01:39:42,880
genuine what they don't tell you is

2555
01:39:46,790 --> 01:39:44,880
genuine doesn't mean unidentified and

2556
01:39:47,590 --> 01:39:46,800
they're not calling it a pyramid ufo

2557
01:39:50,390 --> 01:39:47,600
video

2558
01:39:51,990 --> 01:39:50,400
jeremy corbell did i'm not faulting him

2559
01:39:53,669 --> 01:39:52,000
for it or praising him for it that's

2560
01:39:56,629 --> 01:39:53,679
just his wording

2561
01:39:57,750 --> 01:39:56,639
we don't know what the official

2562
01:40:00,149 --> 01:39:57,760
interpretation

2563
01:40:01,510 --> 01:40:00,159
is of this not even the designation but

2564
01:40:03,510 --> 01:40:01,520
the interpretation

2565
01:40:05,270 --> 01:40:03,520
are they triangles are they pyramids are

2566
01:40:07,430 --> 01:40:05,280
they three-dimensional craft

2567
01:40:10,070 --> 01:40:07,440
what are they we don't know so we have

2568
01:40:13,350 --> 01:40:10,080
to take essentially anonymous sources

2569
01:40:15,990 --> 01:40:13,360
and their word for it as told to us by

2570
01:40:17,910 --> 01:40:16,000
george knapp and jeremy corbell anybody

2571
01:40:20,149 --> 01:40:17,920
who follows the black vault knows i am

2572
01:40:23,750 --> 01:40:20,159
not a fan of anonymous sources

2573
01:40:26,390 --> 01:40:23,760
at least those stories that are solely

2574
01:40:27,430 --> 01:40:26,400
anonymously sourced and sadly these

2575
01:40:30,070 --> 01:40:27,440
these were

2576
01:40:31,510 --> 01:40:30,080
at least that friday night uh

2577
01:40:34,149 --> 01:40:31,520
authentication

2578
01:40:35,030 --> 01:40:34,159
gave us a little bit more of the puzzle

2579
01:40:37,030 --> 01:40:35,040
which are

2580
01:40:38,550 --> 01:40:37,040
which is okay we'll admit they're

2581
01:40:40,550 --> 01:40:38,560
genuine but that's

2582
01:40:41,990 --> 01:40:40,560
and taken by navy personnel and utilized

2583
01:40:44,149 --> 01:40:42,000
by the ua ptf

2584
01:40:45,350 --> 01:40:44,159
but that's all we're going to tell you

2585
01:40:47,109 --> 01:40:45,360
so again we're not

2586
01:40:48,870 --> 01:40:47,119
getting the full story but the

2587
01:40:51,109 --> 01:40:48,880
mainstream media

2588
01:40:51,910 --> 01:40:51,119
then in turn the general public does the

2589
01:40:54,390 --> 01:40:51,920
rest

2590
01:40:55,350 --> 01:40:54,400
they make up the entire middle to get

2591
01:40:57,430 --> 01:40:55,360
from point a

2592
01:40:59,270 --> 01:40:57,440
to point b and that's what drives me

2593
01:41:00,470 --> 01:40:59,280
nuts because with anonymous sources

2594
01:41:02,870 --> 01:41:00,480
that's all you can do

2595
01:41:04,709 --> 01:41:02,880
that's right and and that's what drives

2596
01:41:06,390 --> 01:41:04,719
me nuts because i would love to follow

2597
01:41:07,590 --> 01:41:06,400
up i'd love to ask questions i'd love to

2598
01:41:10,550 --> 01:41:07,600
get dates i'd love to

2599
01:41:11,590 --> 01:41:10,560
do all this stuff but nothing can be

2600
01:41:13,510 --> 01:41:11,600
verified

2601
01:41:15,109 --> 01:41:13,520
and some people hate pentagon statements

2602
01:41:15,830 --> 01:41:15,119
why do you go there they're going to lie

2603
01:41:17,109 --> 01:41:15,840
all the time

2604
01:41:19,750 --> 01:41:17,119
well that's the only thing that i can

2605
01:41:22,229 --> 01:41:19,760
name and source you know i mean at least

2606
01:41:23,910 --> 01:41:22,239
at least we have something that we can

2607
01:41:25,350 --> 01:41:23,920
fall back on because anybody can

2608
01:41:27,990 --> 01:41:25,360
actually verify it

2609
01:41:30,310 --> 01:41:28,000
all other elements of the story we can't

2610
01:41:32,709 --> 01:41:30,320
verify at least not yet

2611
01:41:35,189 --> 01:41:32,719
so sadly uh going back to my thought

2612
01:41:37,990 --> 01:41:35,199
experiment that i did with this video

2613
01:41:38,870 --> 01:41:38,000
you you the human mind not not you

2614
01:41:41,990 --> 01:41:38,880
personally but

2615
01:41:44,550 --> 01:41:42,000
the human mind fills in the rest

2616
01:41:46,550 --> 01:41:44,560
because we want to believe that these

2617
01:41:47,590 --> 01:41:46,560
are pyramid ufos the government has no

2618
01:41:49,030 --> 01:41:47,600
idea what they are and they're

2619
01:41:51,109 --> 01:41:49,040
potentially alien

2620
01:41:52,390 --> 01:41:51,119
so the human mind will fill in the gaps

2621
01:41:55,350 --> 01:41:52,400
to get there

2622
01:41:56,629 --> 01:41:55,360
and you see that with journalism you see

2623
01:41:59,270 --> 01:41:56,639
that with bloggers

2624
01:41:59,990 --> 01:41:59,280
and you see that with social media and

2625
01:42:01,830 --> 01:42:00,000
and so many

2626
01:42:03,830 --> 01:42:01,840
times people will fire back at you and

2627
01:42:05,669 --> 01:42:03,840
go hey the pentagon admitted these were

2628
01:42:06,870 --> 01:42:05,679
pyramid flying pyramids that's not a

2629
01:42:09,109 --> 01:42:06,880
drone it's like no

2630
01:42:11,030 --> 01:42:09,119
where did you get that you know but

2631
01:42:13,830 --> 01:42:11,040
again it's the human mind

2632
01:42:15,030 --> 01:42:13,840
seeing what they want in a story even

2633
01:42:16,229 --> 01:42:15,040
though the evidence isn't there to

2634
01:42:19,590 --> 01:42:16,239
support it that's right

2635
01:42:23,910 --> 01:42:19,600
and now let's address the elephant

2636
01:42:27,109 --> 01:42:23,920
in the room and that is this

2637
01:42:31,270 --> 01:42:27,119
those flying pyramids

2638
01:42:34,709 --> 01:42:31,280
have flashing aircraft lights on them

2639
01:42:38,070 --> 01:42:34,719
now that's it that right there for

2640
01:42:39,590 --> 01:42:38,080
anybody should be case close i don't

2641
01:42:40,790 --> 01:42:39,600
you know but people are going to see

2642
01:42:42,229 --> 01:42:40,800
what they want to see they're going to

2643
01:42:43,669 --> 01:42:42,239
believe it they want to believe they've

2644
01:42:45,590 --> 01:42:43,679
got the headline there

2645
01:42:47,270 --> 01:42:45,600
they go and watch the video and

2646
01:42:51,430 --> 01:42:47,280
apparently

2647
01:42:54,629 --> 01:42:51,440
don't see the flashing aircraft lights

2648
01:42:56,790 --> 01:42:54,639
and how do you explain that

2649
01:42:58,310 --> 01:42:56,800
and and help the public a little bit

2650
01:43:01,350 --> 01:42:58,320
understand

2651
01:43:04,070 --> 01:43:01,360
uh what is actually going on here

2652
01:43:06,310 --> 01:43:04,080
those are flashing aircraft lights and

2653
01:43:10,070 --> 01:43:06,320
as far as i know

2654
01:43:12,310 --> 01:43:10,080
and i believe i believe john i know

2655
01:43:13,430 --> 01:43:12,320
that we are being visited i have seen

2656
01:43:16,550 --> 01:43:13,440
what i have seen

2657
01:43:20,070 --> 01:43:16,560
i know that uh our milky way

2658
01:43:22,390 --> 01:43:20,080
is populated with countless uh

2659
01:43:23,430 --> 01:43:22,400
intelligent civilizations that's my

2660
01:43:26,709 --> 01:43:23,440
belief

2661
01:43:30,550 --> 01:43:26,719
this video is not that

2662
01:43:34,870 --> 01:43:30,560
right and and and unless

2663
01:43:38,629 --> 01:43:34,880
et just wants to give us the convenience

2664
01:43:42,070 --> 01:43:38,639
of showing us that they respect our faa

2665
01:43:45,669 --> 01:43:42,080
right they want us to know that they

2666
01:43:47,510 --> 01:43:45,679
are uh compliant and they've got

2667
01:43:48,709 --> 01:43:47,520
flashing aircraft lights on their flying

2668
01:43:51,189 --> 01:43:48,719
pyramids

2669
01:43:52,629 --> 01:43:51,199
right that they're that's the elephant

2670
01:43:54,310 --> 01:43:52,639
in the room

2671
01:43:55,750 --> 01:43:54,320
and and i think a lot of people are

2672
01:43:58,470 --> 01:43:55,760
missing that and i'm not

2673
01:43:59,109 --> 01:43:58,480
entirely sure why uh those that have

2674
01:44:02,070 --> 01:43:59,119
seen

2675
01:44:03,510 --> 01:44:02,080
enough ufo videos and have done this uh

2676
01:44:05,109 --> 01:44:03,520
for a long time

2677
01:44:08,149 --> 01:44:05,119
know that if you see an object in the

2678
01:44:09,910 --> 01:44:08,159
sky and it's got a flashing light on it

2679
01:44:11,470 --> 01:44:09,920
yeah you could pretty much lean towards

2680
01:44:14,629 --> 01:44:11,480
it's a

2681
01:44:16,709 --> 01:44:14,639
faa-compliant earth-based aircraft

2682
01:44:18,550 --> 01:44:16,719
generally not one from some other solar

2683
01:44:21,830 --> 01:44:18,560
system so

2684
01:44:23,990 --> 01:44:21,840
where where that leap went in the very

2685
01:44:25,430 --> 01:44:24,000
beginning stages of this debate i'm i'm

2686
01:44:28,310 --> 01:44:25,440
not really sure

2687
01:44:30,310 --> 01:44:28,320
um i have to give credit where it's due

2688
01:44:33,510 --> 01:44:30,320
and that is mick west who really

2689
01:44:35,270 --> 01:44:33,520
absolutely led the charge in digging in

2690
01:44:36,950 --> 01:44:35,280
and what was very cool maybe i've just

2691
01:44:38,870 --> 01:44:36,960
never noticed it before

2692
01:44:39,990 --> 01:44:38,880
he was posting updates when he didn't

2693
01:44:42,870 --> 01:44:40,000
know something

2694
01:44:44,870 --> 01:44:42,880
he actually said it and then just kept

2695
01:44:46,470 --> 01:44:44,880
working harder to figure that out

2696
01:44:48,310 --> 01:44:46,480
you know there are some skeptics or even

2697
01:44:49,350 --> 01:44:48,320
debunkers out there whatever they want

2698
01:44:51,590 --> 01:44:49,360
to call themselves

2699
01:44:53,430 --> 01:44:51,600
and they just have all the answers and

2700
01:44:54,950 --> 01:44:53,440
where i respected the process when i

2701
01:44:56,790 --> 01:44:54,960
watched this play out

2702
01:44:58,709 --> 01:44:56,800
was that there were certain things that

2703
01:45:01,109 --> 01:44:58,719
he couldn't answer

2704
01:45:02,950 --> 01:45:01,119
but he started allowing it to play out

2705
01:45:04,149 --> 01:45:02,960
as he was investigating it he did a

2706
01:45:06,149 --> 01:45:04,159
couple videos

2707
01:45:07,189 --> 01:45:06,159
and i'm sorry one of his i it's the last

2708
01:45:09,430 --> 01:45:07,199
one i think

2709
01:45:11,189 --> 01:45:09,440
as as we are recording this he may have

2710
01:45:13,590 --> 01:45:11,199
done more and i haven't seen it

2711
01:45:15,590 --> 01:45:13,600
but it was very convincing where a

2712
01:45:17,510 --> 01:45:15,600
friend of his had a night vision camera

2713
01:45:19,109 --> 01:45:17,520
with a triangle-shaped aperture

2714
01:45:20,629 --> 01:45:19,119
they went out they were filming lights

2715
01:45:23,830 --> 01:45:20,639
in the sky an fa

2716
01:45:25,830 --> 01:45:23,840
you know an faa compliant earth-based uh

2717
01:45:27,350 --> 01:45:25,840
aircraft that that looks nearly

2718
01:45:29,910 --> 01:45:27,360
identical

2719
01:45:31,270 --> 01:45:29,920
mick west also posted a video where he

2720
01:45:33,510 --> 01:45:31,280
timed faa

2721
01:45:34,790 --> 01:45:33,520
the the frequency of the blinking lights

2722
01:45:37,590 --> 01:45:34,800
and it matches

2723
01:45:39,669 --> 01:45:37,600
that of this quote-unquote pyramid ufo

2724
01:45:42,310 --> 01:45:39,679
you look at all that the common sense

2725
01:45:43,109 --> 01:45:42,320
thing to say is okay these guys got a

2726
01:45:44,709 --> 01:45:43,119
point

2727
01:45:46,709 --> 01:45:44,719
i may not agree with these skeptics and

2728
01:45:48,550 --> 01:45:46,719
debunkers all the time i believe there

2729
01:45:51,270 --> 01:45:48,560
is something to this phenomena

2730
01:45:51,990 --> 01:45:51,280
but yeah they're kind of on to something

2731
01:45:54,310 --> 01:45:52,000
here

2732
01:45:55,189 --> 01:45:54,320
and so so credit to them for for doing

2733
01:46:00,550 --> 01:45:55,199
that

2734
01:46:01,590 --> 01:46:00,560
why wouldn't the military be able to

2735
01:46:04,229 --> 01:46:01,600
figure this out

2736
01:46:05,750 --> 01:46:04,239
now people are asking that and they're

2737
01:46:08,870 --> 01:46:05,760
saying

2738
01:46:10,550 --> 01:46:08,880
mick west's theory is stupid because

2739
01:46:11,990 --> 01:46:10,560
the military would be able to figure

2740
01:46:14,790 --> 01:46:12,000
that out but

2741
01:46:16,470 --> 01:46:14,800
again it's filling in the gaps no one

2742
01:46:18,310 --> 01:46:16,480
ever said they're unidentified

2743
01:46:20,310 --> 01:46:18,320
they may come out and say they are you

2744
01:46:23,189 --> 01:46:20,320
know tonight or tomorrow for all i know

2745
01:46:23,669 --> 01:46:23,199
but as it stands right now the military

2746
01:46:25,669 --> 01:46:23,679
doesn't

2747
01:46:26,870 --> 01:46:25,679
have a stance on if these are

2748
01:46:29,750 --> 01:46:26,880
unidentified

2749
01:46:31,350 --> 01:46:29,760
or identified but the general public and

2750
01:46:34,310 --> 01:46:31,360
the chatter

2751
01:46:37,109 --> 01:46:34,320
is that they're making up the middle

2752
01:46:40,229 --> 01:46:37,119
saying well the uaptf is utilizing this

2753
01:46:42,870 --> 01:46:40,239
so ergo it has to be unidentified

2754
01:46:44,709 --> 01:46:42,880
well no because if if they're really

2755
01:46:46,550 --> 01:46:44,719
doing an investigation

2756
01:46:48,550 --> 01:46:46,560
they will be able to identify a lot of

2757
01:46:49,430 --> 01:46:48,560
this stuff and we go back to those

2758
01:46:52,310 --> 01:46:49,440
project blue

2759
01:46:53,109 --> 01:46:52,320
blue book days where verifiable evidence

2760
01:46:56,149 --> 01:46:53,119
shows

2761
01:46:57,750 --> 01:46:56,159
that they have a stack of material that

2762
01:47:00,629 --> 01:46:57,760
they use as reference

2763
01:47:01,750 --> 01:47:00,639
and for for this to be so easily

2764
01:47:03,830 --> 01:47:01,760
reproduced

2765
01:47:05,750 --> 01:47:03,840
and the video is very convincing it's a

2766
01:47:07,510 --> 01:47:05,760
great video it's a great video yeah he

2767
01:47:09,510 --> 01:47:07,520
did well he did a great job and like i

2768
01:47:12,790 --> 01:47:09,520
think earlier today i saw it had

2769
01:47:13,990 --> 01:47:12,800
you know 20 plus thousand views in just

2770
01:47:16,149 --> 01:47:14,000
a couple days and

2771
01:47:17,270 --> 01:47:16,159
so he he's he obviously people are

2772
01:47:19,270 --> 01:47:17,280
looking at this

2773
01:47:20,870 --> 01:47:19,280
uh and realizing okay that this is

2774
01:47:22,870 --> 01:47:20,880
something that's very

2775
01:47:24,390 --> 01:47:22,880
explainable it goes back to that

2776
01:47:26,149 --> 01:47:24,400
question then why

2777
01:47:27,590 --> 01:47:26,159
why do we have this material this is

2778
01:47:29,510 --> 01:47:27,600
what's leaking out

2779
01:47:31,510 --> 01:47:29,520
and it and it just again it's an

2780
01:47:34,709 --> 01:47:31,520
unanswered question i have

2781
01:47:36,629 --> 01:47:34,719
of of why this is going on that why is

2782
01:47:38,310 --> 01:47:36,639
this the material that we're seeing why

2783
01:47:41,510 --> 01:47:38,320
is there an object

2784
01:47:43,990 --> 01:47:41,520
in a nearly identically shaped uh

2785
01:47:45,830 --> 01:47:44,000
way to a balloon and and of course

2786
01:47:48,229 --> 01:47:45,840
people argue well balloons can't go that

2787
01:47:50,149 --> 01:47:48,239
high and so on and so forth but again

2788
01:47:52,470 --> 01:47:50,159
yet another example of making up the

2789
01:47:54,109 --> 01:47:52,480
middle the original reporting said

2790
01:47:55,910 --> 01:47:54,119
this anonymous witness said

2791
01:47:58,950 --> 01:47:55,920
approximately 30

2792
01:48:02,790 --> 01:47:58,960
000 feet or roughly well what is roughly

2793
01:48:05,510 --> 01:48:02,800
28 25 22 does it matter who cares

2794
01:48:06,550 --> 01:48:05,520
you know those are all facts that people

2795
01:48:08,629 --> 01:48:06,560
gloss over

2796
01:48:10,550 --> 01:48:08,639
in order to get to the finish line of

2797
01:48:13,750 --> 01:48:10,560
aha this is a

2798
01:48:14,470 --> 01:48:13,760
ufo not a batman balloon and so so

2799
01:48:17,030 --> 01:48:14,480
that's

2800
01:48:17,590 --> 01:48:17,040
the struggle i think in in in today's

2801
01:48:19,830 --> 01:48:17,600
debate

2802
01:48:21,189 --> 01:48:19,840
about all of this and again that's where

2803
01:48:23,270 --> 01:48:21,199
i i lean towards

2804
01:48:24,950 --> 01:48:23,280
is there another agenda here because

2805
01:48:27,669 --> 01:48:24,960
that could be utilized

2806
01:48:29,750 --> 01:48:27,679
in a disinformation campaign the way

2807
01:48:32,950 --> 01:48:29,760
that the general public then

2808
01:48:35,430 --> 01:48:32,960
takes up arms on twitter and facebook

2809
01:48:36,790 --> 01:48:35,440
and fights their battles to the death on

2810
01:48:39,669 --> 01:48:36,800
who's right

2811
01:48:41,270 --> 01:48:39,679
and and that to an intel from an

2812
01:48:43,590 --> 01:48:41,280
intelligence standpoint

2813
01:48:44,870 --> 01:48:43,600
is gold because if you want to muddy up

2814
01:48:47,270 --> 01:48:44,880
the waters right

2815
01:48:49,109 --> 01:48:47,280
you don't got to fund anything you don't

2816
01:48:50,550 --> 01:48:49,119
got to put a lot of research into it

2817
01:48:53,430 --> 01:48:50,560
you really don't got to put a lot of

2818
01:48:56,390 --> 01:48:53,440
effort into it leak a couple things out

2819
01:48:58,229 --> 01:48:56,400
omit those details they're what they're

2820
01:49:00,470 --> 01:48:58,239
saying is potentially truthful

2821
01:49:01,270 --> 01:49:00,480
but you omit the full context and

2822
01:49:03,350 --> 01:49:01,280
details

2823
01:49:04,310 --> 01:49:03,360
general public does the rest they fill

2824
01:49:06,790 --> 01:49:04,320
in the gaps

2825
01:49:08,390 --> 01:49:06,800
take up arms and it is a gigantic civil

2826
01:49:10,950 --> 01:49:08,400
war on what's really going on

2827
01:49:12,310 --> 01:49:10,960
i'm still impressed with the batman

2828
01:49:15,510 --> 01:49:12,320
balloon

2829
01:49:17,350 --> 01:49:15,520
i'm not fully i'm not i've that has not

2830
01:49:18,870 --> 01:49:17,360
been debunked for me

2831
01:49:20,709 --> 01:49:18,880
i look at that and i think about the

2832
01:49:23,750 --> 01:49:20,719
altitude and

2833
01:49:24,629 --> 01:49:23,760
and everything else that that i see with

2834
01:49:28,310 --> 01:49:24,639
my eyes in

2835
01:49:29,830 --> 01:49:28,320
in in in that image i'm still confused

2836
01:49:31,750 --> 01:49:29,840
the jury's out for me

2837
01:49:33,350 --> 01:49:31,760
i think there's a possibility that that

2838
01:49:36,550 --> 01:49:33,360
could be something strange

2839
01:49:39,990 --> 01:49:36,560
and therefore i come out as

2840
01:49:40,550 --> 01:49:40,000
a little bit of a hypocrite with myself

2841
01:49:43,030 --> 01:49:40,560
where i'm

2842
01:49:43,669 --> 01:49:43,040
very critical on this other stuff and

2843
01:49:47,030 --> 01:49:43,679
and

2844
01:49:47,750 --> 01:49:47,040
i make a comment uh about you know the

2845
01:49:49,270 --> 01:49:47,760
flashing

2846
01:49:51,589 --> 01:49:49,280
aircraft lights or whatever and suddenly

2847
01:49:53,510 --> 01:49:51,599
i'm a government shill

2848
01:49:55,109 --> 01:49:53,520
and the only thing that i can re the

2849
01:49:57,430 --> 01:49:55,119
only way my patience is

2850
01:49:58,790 --> 01:49:57,440
wearing so thin with everybody right now

2851
01:50:01,589 --> 01:49:58,800
with this john

2852
01:50:03,669 --> 01:50:01,599
but my my response has to be you know

2853
01:50:06,709 --> 01:50:03,679
this boilerplate response

2854
01:50:09,990 --> 01:50:06,719
look if you believe

2855
01:50:13,669 --> 01:50:10,000
that aliens are flying pyramids with

2856
01:50:14,550 --> 01:50:13,679
aircraft landing lights um and flashing

2857
01:50:17,510 --> 01:50:14,560
lights

2858
01:50:18,149 --> 01:50:17,520
i can't help you just go and believe in

2859
01:50:21,350 --> 01:50:18,159
that

2860
01:50:22,870 --> 01:50:21,360
okay i i'm not going there so good luck

2861
01:50:24,229 --> 01:50:22,880
to you that's that's

2862
01:50:25,990 --> 01:50:24,239
you're not going to change people's

2863
01:50:27,510 --> 01:50:26,000
minds people are going to believe what

2864
01:50:29,350 --> 01:50:27,520
they want to believe

2865
01:50:30,629 --> 01:50:29,360
and i'm not here to change people's

2866
01:50:32,870 --> 01:50:30,639
minds i i am not

2867
01:50:33,669 --> 01:50:32,880
i am suggesting to everybody read

2868
01:50:36,709 --> 01:50:33,679
everything

2869
01:50:39,589 --> 01:50:36,719
tyler rogoway um

2870
01:50:40,870 --> 01:50:39,599
of the war zone his recent article

2871
01:50:44,229 --> 01:50:40,880
mind-blowing

2872
01:50:46,390 --> 01:50:44,239
so well researched it's it's spot-on

2873
01:50:47,830 --> 01:50:46,400
and i suggest to everybody i don't care

2874
01:50:51,270 --> 01:50:47,840
what side of the fence you're on

2875
01:50:54,550 --> 01:50:51,280
go and read this go and watch mick west

2876
01:50:55,350 --> 01:50:54,560
video go and and check out the article

2877
01:50:57,510 --> 01:50:55,360
in the drive

2878
01:50:59,589 --> 01:50:57,520
the original breakdown of everything

2879
01:51:02,149 --> 01:50:59,599
with the ship's logs and

2880
01:51:03,830 --> 01:51:02,159
and the incident reports and and

2881
01:51:05,030 --> 01:51:03,840
everything else the snoopy crews or

2882
01:51:08,149 --> 01:51:05,040
whatever they're called

2883
01:51:11,990 --> 01:51:08,159
um go and read that and if you walk away

2884
01:51:15,430 --> 01:51:12,000
believing that this is a ufo et thing

2885
01:51:18,470 --> 01:51:15,440
okay i can't help you but i think

2886
01:51:19,990 --> 01:51:18,480
they're very excellently uh researched

2887
01:51:23,109 --> 01:51:20,000
and presented and and people

2888
01:51:24,870 --> 01:51:23,119
are choosing to ignore that instead of

2889
01:51:26,709 --> 01:51:24,880
doing their own research and trying to

2890
01:51:28,629 --> 01:51:26,719
come to a conclusion

2891
01:51:30,709 --> 01:51:28,639
yeah i'm i'm always a big advocate for

2892
01:51:32,550 --> 01:51:30,719
people challenging themselves

2893
01:51:33,990 --> 01:51:32,560
not only with this material but but

2894
01:51:36,870 --> 01:51:34,000
everything i think we need to do

2895
01:51:37,910 --> 01:51:36,880
that more because we do essentially make

2896
01:51:39,830 --> 01:51:37,920
up that middle

2897
01:51:42,229 --> 01:51:39,840
you know and and we want to believe

2898
01:51:44,229 --> 01:51:42,239
point b but we're at point a so

2899
01:51:45,270 --> 01:51:44,239
to get there just make up the bridge you

2900
01:51:47,830 --> 01:51:45,280
know and and

2901
01:51:49,510 --> 01:51:47,840
and look i i'm human too there's certain

2902
01:51:52,709 --> 01:51:49,520
things that i feel that

2903
01:51:55,109 --> 01:51:52,719
are true and you you look for it and i

2904
01:51:56,470 --> 01:51:55,119
i catch myself going okay i don't really

2905
01:51:57,350 --> 01:51:56,480
have the evidence to go from here to

2906
01:51:59,189 --> 01:51:57,360
there but yeah

2907
01:52:00,709 --> 01:51:59,199
it doesn't matter and you can't do that

2908
01:52:01,189 --> 01:52:00,719
i mean you have to triple check there

2909
01:52:02,950 --> 01:52:01,199
are

2910
01:52:05,030 --> 01:52:02,960
a couple stories that i'm working on now

2911
01:52:05,830 --> 01:52:05,040
where yeah i could have ran with it you

2912
01:52:07,750 --> 01:52:05,840
know and and

2913
01:52:08,870 --> 01:52:07,760
and i could have just said okay i have

2914
01:52:10,390 --> 01:52:08,880
enough evidence

2915
01:52:12,950 --> 01:52:10,400
with what it is i could prove what i'm

2916
01:52:14,629 --> 01:52:12,960
saying but no you can't do it because

2917
01:52:17,270 --> 01:52:14,639
there's just that little

2918
01:52:19,030 --> 01:52:17,280
potential doubt and you just have to

2919
01:52:20,950 --> 01:52:19,040
double triple and quadruple check things

2920
01:52:22,470 --> 01:52:20,960
which i'm in the middle of now and

2921
01:52:23,910 --> 01:52:22,480
i'm hoping the light at the end of the

2922
01:52:24,870 --> 01:52:23,920
tunnel on a couple of these stories will

2923
01:52:27,589 --> 01:52:24,880
will uh

2924
01:52:29,270 --> 01:52:27,599
uh be rapidly approaching here but my

2925
01:52:30,070 --> 01:52:29,280
point is is that you always have to

2926
01:52:31,910 --> 01:52:30,080
challenge

2927
01:52:34,310 --> 01:52:31,920
yourself you have to keep asking

2928
01:52:36,070 --> 01:52:34,320
questions because when it comes to ufos

2929
01:52:37,990 --> 01:52:36,080
and it comes to the government

2930
01:52:39,430 --> 01:52:38,000
the moment you think you know what's

2931
01:52:41,350 --> 01:52:39,440
really going on

2932
01:52:43,750 --> 01:52:41,360
uh there's a curveball coming it's

2933
01:52:45,350 --> 01:52:43,760
pretty much uh it's pretty much a given

2934
01:52:48,310 --> 01:52:45,360
at that point that will throw whatever

2935
01:52:50,790 --> 01:52:48,320
you believe in for a loop

2936
01:52:52,550 --> 01:52:50,800
it it's frustrating to see those that

2937
01:52:53,109 --> 01:52:52,560
don't allow those curve balls to be

2938
01:52:55,109 --> 01:52:53,119
thrown

2939
01:52:56,790 --> 01:52:55,119
no and it's always a swing and a miss

2940
01:52:59,109 --> 01:52:56,800
too yeah

2941
01:53:00,470 --> 01:52:59,119
and that and that's true and and you

2942
01:53:02,790 --> 01:53:00,480
know i mean i'm i'm here to tell you

2943
01:53:04,470 --> 01:53:02,800
this will be 25 years of of doing

2944
01:53:07,510 --> 01:53:04,480
government secret research and

2945
01:53:09,030 --> 01:53:07,520
and so on for me and i i'm here to say

2946
01:53:10,790 --> 01:53:09,040
the biggest lesson i've learned if

2947
01:53:12,070 --> 01:53:10,800
anybody tells you they have the answers

2948
01:53:14,070 --> 01:53:12,080
just turn around and walk away

2949
01:53:16,629 --> 01:53:14,080
because no one does it doesn't matter if

2950
01:53:19,669 --> 01:53:16,639
you've been in for 25 years 50 years

2951
01:53:21,910 --> 01:53:19,679
uh it doesn't matter i mean it's that's

2952
01:53:23,510 --> 01:53:21,920
the fun of it all for for me at least is

2953
01:53:25,589 --> 01:53:23,520
that we just don't know

2954
01:53:26,950 --> 01:53:25,599
there are there are too many unknowns

2955
01:53:29,589 --> 01:53:26,960
for us to put a

2956
01:53:30,550 --> 01:53:29,599
solidified theory on it all which keeps

2957
01:53:32,470 --> 01:53:30,560
me going

2958
01:53:34,070 --> 01:53:32,480
uh but in the same respect i can say hey

2959
01:53:37,510 --> 01:53:34,080
we don't have all the answers

2960
01:53:38,950 --> 01:53:37,520
and and sadly i think people are afraid

2961
01:53:41,109 --> 01:53:38,960
to ask questions

2962
01:53:43,189 --> 01:53:41,119
that's the other point that always is

2963
01:53:45,589 --> 01:53:43,199
the biggest frustrating um

2964
01:53:46,709 --> 01:53:45,599
uh aspect of all this for me is that if

2965
01:53:49,270 --> 01:53:46,719
you don't ask

2966
01:53:49,750 --> 01:53:49,280
questions you're safer and for me it's

2967
01:53:51,270 --> 01:53:49,760
the more

2968
01:53:52,709 --> 01:53:51,280
questions you ask the better you know

2969
01:53:54,390 --> 01:53:52,719
because you got to keep asking and

2970
01:53:55,830 --> 01:53:54,400
asking to get those answers

2971
01:53:57,510 --> 01:53:55,840
and the more information you have the

2972
01:53:58,870 --> 01:53:57,520
more pieces of the puzzle you have all

2973
01:54:00,550 --> 01:53:58,880
the more better

2974
01:54:03,430 --> 01:54:00,560
but in the last couple of years i've

2975
01:54:05,030 --> 01:54:03,440
seen where there is this

2976
01:54:06,870 --> 01:54:05,040
apprehension you know they're just

2977
01:54:08,310 --> 01:54:06,880
people are so apprehensive to ask

2978
01:54:10,390 --> 01:54:08,320
questions they did they're reluctant

2979
01:54:11,910 --> 01:54:10,400
they don't want to push certain angles

2980
01:54:13,270 --> 01:54:11,920
they don't want the answers

2981
01:54:15,510 --> 01:54:13,280
they don't want to hear the answer

2982
01:54:17,589 --> 01:54:15,520
they're starting to think that that's

2983
01:54:19,669 --> 01:54:17,599
part of it you know and it's like no

2984
01:54:20,229 --> 01:54:19,679
this this person is talking so don't

2985
01:54:22,229 --> 01:54:20,239
question

2986
01:54:23,350 --> 01:54:22,239
them you know we wanna we wanna make

2987
01:54:25,109 --> 01:54:23,360
sure that that

2988
01:54:27,510 --> 01:54:25,119
that they keep talking so don't bite the

2989
01:54:29,350 --> 01:54:27,520
hand that feeds you and it's like no

2990
01:54:30,550 --> 01:54:29,360
somebody told me on a social media

2991
01:54:32,310 --> 01:54:30,560
network read it

2992
01:54:35,030 --> 01:54:32,320
one time and it stuck with me now for

2993
01:54:37,830 --> 01:54:35,040
quite a few years uh truth will survive

2994
01:54:39,669 --> 01:54:37,840
all forms of scrutiny so so it doesn't

2995
01:54:42,310 --> 01:54:39,679
matter how many questions you ask or how

2996
01:54:44,790 --> 01:54:42,320
much you attack something or someone

2997
01:54:45,830 --> 01:54:44,800
if they are telling the truth or if that

2998
01:54:48,229 --> 01:54:45,840
is the truth

2999
01:54:50,149 --> 01:54:48,239
there is nothing you can say or do to go

3000
01:54:52,070 --> 01:54:50,159
against it there's just not

3001
01:54:53,350 --> 01:54:52,080
you know i mean sure i can try and lie

3002
01:54:54,709 --> 01:54:53,360
and make stuff up but people are gonna

3003
01:54:56,950 --> 01:54:54,719
catch me in that

3004
01:54:57,910 --> 01:54:56,960
if there is the truth and you're being

3005
01:54:59,910 --> 01:54:57,920
met on with the truth

3006
01:55:01,189 --> 01:54:59,920
no question is gonna hurt that and

3007
01:55:01,750 --> 01:55:01,199
that's always stuck with me it's like

3008
01:55:04,470 --> 01:55:01,760
yeah

3009
01:55:05,589 --> 01:55:04,480
why can't more people realize that it's

3010
01:55:07,510 --> 01:55:05,599
okay to ask a question

3011
01:55:09,109 --> 01:55:07,520
it's okay to question i love them i love

3012
01:55:11,189 --> 01:55:09,119
questions people want to

3013
01:55:13,030 --> 01:55:11,199
come at me for for doing something or

3014
01:55:15,510 --> 01:55:13,040
saying something i'm all for it

3015
01:55:16,950 --> 01:55:15,520
i mean i guarantee there'll be twitter

3016
01:55:19,750 --> 01:55:16,960
attacks because i

3017
01:55:20,870 --> 01:55:19,760
made a counterintelligence um comment

3018
01:55:22,870 --> 01:55:20,880
about atip and

3019
01:55:24,149 --> 01:55:22,880
and luis elizondo's counterintelligence

3020
01:55:26,070 --> 01:55:24,159
background and

3021
01:55:27,830 --> 01:55:26,080
and and and i only bring that up again

3022
01:55:30,310 --> 01:55:27,840
because i i just want to say

3023
01:55:32,070 --> 01:55:30,320
watch there will be attacks my way that

3024
01:55:35,589 --> 01:55:32,080
i'm insinuating something that's not

3025
01:55:38,629 --> 01:55:35,599
there but people want to look for

3026
01:55:40,310 --> 01:55:38,639
attacks to create the drama

3027
01:55:41,910 --> 01:55:40,320
and it happens a lot with us when we

3028
01:55:43,430 --> 01:55:41,920
have conversations where then people

3029
01:55:45,270 --> 01:55:43,440
turn to twitter and go aha

3030
01:55:46,950 --> 01:55:45,280
let me tag luis elizondo let me tag

3031
01:55:48,870 --> 01:55:46,960
jimmy church and john greenwald and

3032
01:55:50,470 --> 01:55:48,880
start this battle and that's not the way

3033
01:55:51,510 --> 01:55:50,480
it should be you know we should ask

3034
01:55:53,510 --> 01:55:51,520
these questions

3035
01:55:54,790 --> 01:55:53,520
by luis elizondo's admission he can't

3036
01:55:56,470 --> 01:55:54,800
tell you everything

3037
01:55:58,390 --> 01:55:56,480
you know he's he's been asked a lot of

3038
01:55:59,430 --> 01:55:58,400
questions that he references his nda and

3039
01:56:01,430 --> 01:55:59,440
clearances

3040
01:56:02,790 --> 01:56:01,440
so it's okay for us to ask questions

3041
01:56:03,589 --> 01:56:02,800
even though they may make us cringe a

3042
01:56:05,189 --> 01:56:03,599
little bit

3043
01:56:07,030 --> 01:56:05,199
because by his own admission he can't

3044
01:56:07,430 --> 01:56:07,040
tell us everything that doesn't mean

3045
01:56:09,910 --> 01:56:07,440
he's

3046
01:56:11,270 --> 01:56:09,920
involved in some disinformation campaign

3047
01:56:12,550 --> 01:56:11,280
that just means we don't have all the

3048
01:56:15,030 --> 01:56:12,560
pieces of the puzzle yet

3049
01:56:16,470 --> 01:56:15,040
and i'm not done asking questions and

3050
01:56:18,550 --> 01:56:16,480
and people are afraid of that

3051
01:56:20,629 --> 01:56:18,560
and it's it's a shame uh because i think

3052
01:56:21,589 --> 01:56:20,639
they they fall back to social media

3053
01:56:24,229 --> 01:56:21,599
drama

3054
01:56:25,510 --> 01:56:24,239
to create issues versus actually just

3055
01:56:26,390 --> 01:56:25,520
taking the time to try and find the

3056
01:56:29,990 --> 01:56:26,400
answers

3057
01:56:31,990 --> 01:56:30,000
do you think um and i'm not insinuating

3058
01:56:35,189 --> 01:56:32,000
anything here but

3059
01:56:38,390 --> 01:56:35,199
um elizondo just posted up on twitter

3060
01:56:40,470 --> 01:56:38,400
uh a picture of him flying back home

3061
01:56:43,109 --> 01:56:40,480
from washington dc

3062
01:56:43,910 --> 01:56:43,119
alluding to he's been hanging out with

3063
01:56:46,070 --> 01:56:43,920
the uap

3064
01:56:48,149 --> 01:56:46,080
task force and he probably has and he's

3065
01:56:49,750 --> 01:56:48,159
probably been speaking with them

3066
01:56:52,470 --> 01:56:49,760
but i don't know how long he was in

3067
01:56:56,149 --> 01:56:52,480
washington dc but certainly that's when

3068
01:56:59,510 --> 01:56:56,159
this leak happened and he did the last

3069
01:57:02,709 --> 01:56:59,520
leak right did

3070
01:57:05,910 --> 01:57:02,719
did i mean

3071
01:57:09,750 --> 01:57:05,920
is it is it always centered around um

3072
01:57:13,109 --> 01:57:09,760
elizondo is this just beyond coincidence

3073
01:57:14,790 --> 01:57:13,119
and it's the same circle of people where

3074
01:57:19,109 --> 01:57:14,800
everything else has been happening over

3075
01:57:23,109 --> 01:57:21,750
i'm gonna be really careful answering

3076
01:57:23,990 --> 01:57:23,119
that because i know i'm gonna get heat

3077
01:57:26,149 --> 01:57:24,000
already

3078
01:57:27,270 --> 01:57:26,159
look nobody care look i'm going to say

3079
01:57:29,589 --> 01:57:27,280
this

3080
01:57:31,589 --> 01:57:29,599
apparently he didn't do it whoever

3081
01:57:33,030 --> 01:57:31,599
leaked this didn't do anything illegal

3082
01:57:34,870 --> 01:57:33,040
because the pentagon doesn't give a

3083
01:57:38,149 --> 01:57:34,880
rat's ass right

3084
01:57:39,589 --> 01:57:38,159
well that's the leak happened so right

3085
01:57:41,990 --> 01:57:39,599
there's no outrage

3086
01:57:43,669 --> 01:57:42,000
i don't see marco rubio making

3087
01:57:46,709 --> 01:57:43,679
statements in the press

3088
01:57:47,350 --> 01:57:46,719
about his outrage over this leak that

3089
01:57:50,149 --> 01:57:47,360
happened

3090
01:57:51,589 --> 01:57:50,159
with a pending report that's supposed to

3091
01:57:52,709 --> 01:57:51,599
be in front of the intelligence

3092
01:57:56,709 --> 01:57:52,719
committee

3093
01:57:58,629 --> 01:57:56,719
uh it seemed like this is all okay

3094
01:57:59,669 --> 01:57:58,639
i i what i will say about all this

3095
01:58:01,830 --> 01:57:59,679
because you bring up an excellent

3096
01:58:04,310 --> 01:58:01,840
question and and i don't know

3097
01:58:05,510 --> 01:58:04,320
uh meaning i'm not sure who's involved

3098
01:58:07,669 --> 01:58:05,520
with these leaks

3099
01:58:08,629 --> 01:58:07,679
christopher mellon who i believe and i

3100
01:58:11,109 --> 01:58:08,639
don't have a doubt

3101
01:58:12,629 --> 01:58:11,119
has very tight connections and has

3102
01:58:14,470 --> 01:58:12,639
worked very hard to get the

3103
01:58:15,910 --> 01:58:14,480
congressional language in you see the

3104
01:58:19,030 --> 01:58:15,920
parallels between

3105
01:58:20,709 --> 01:58:19,040
what he wrote to what was then published

3106
01:58:22,390 --> 01:58:20,719
by marco rubio's committee

3107
01:58:24,229 --> 01:58:22,400
it's beyond a doubt that he was heavily

3108
01:58:24,950 --> 01:58:24,239
involved with that obviously he's still

3109
01:58:27,030 --> 01:58:24,960
working

3110
01:58:29,430 --> 01:58:27,040
uh with luis elizondo and obviously they

3111
01:58:31,750 --> 01:58:29,440
have this this effort and they're making

3112
01:58:33,030 --> 01:58:31,760
they're making um headway with all of

3113
01:58:34,709 --> 01:58:33,040
that

3114
01:58:36,310 --> 01:58:34,719
but when you read some of these articles

3115
01:58:39,350 --> 01:58:36,320
and all these anonymous sources

3116
01:58:41,350 --> 01:58:39,360
are referenced i would venture to guess

3117
01:58:43,350 --> 01:58:41,360
and i probably would never be able to

3118
01:58:46,709 --> 01:58:43,360
prove this but venture to guess

3119
01:58:49,430 --> 01:58:46,719
that that seemingly long list

3120
01:58:50,390 --> 01:58:49,440
of anonymous sources are probably the

3121
01:58:53,030 --> 01:58:50,400
same select

3122
01:58:54,470 --> 01:58:53,040
couple of people and christopher mellon

3123
01:58:55,030 --> 01:58:54,480
who is tight with all of that says the

3124
01:58:58,629 --> 01:58:55,040
uap

3125
01:59:01,669 --> 01:58:58,639
task force is a a small handful of

3126
01:59:01,990 --> 01:59:01,679
underfunded uh people that are doing

3127
01:59:05,510 --> 01:59:02,000
this

3128
01:59:08,310 --> 01:59:05,520
effort so those that are on the list

3129
01:59:09,750 --> 01:59:08,320
of potentially leaking this stuff in my

3130
01:59:12,390 --> 01:59:09,760
personal opinion

3131
01:59:13,109 --> 01:59:12,400
it's probably a really small list

3132
01:59:15,510 --> 01:59:13,119
because

3133
01:59:18,310 --> 01:59:15,520
there's not that many people involved

3134
01:59:20,870 --> 01:59:18,320
and so for the pentagon to not care

3135
01:59:21,990 --> 01:59:20,880
is that's again another piece of

3136
01:59:24,229 --> 01:59:22,000
evidence on why

3137
01:59:26,470 --> 01:59:24,239
it is intriguing to me because they

3138
01:59:28,070 --> 01:59:26,480
should it's a very small list

3139
01:59:30,390 --> 01:59:28,080
when they investigated the leak of the

3140
01:59:32,070 --> 01:59:30,400
nimitz film for 2007

3141
01:59:33,430 --> 01:59:32,080
they realized that they had thousands of

3142
01:59:34,550 --> 01:59:33,440
sailors that were on that ship that

3143
01:59:37,030 --> 01:59:34,560
could have been the leaker

3144
01:59:38,550 --> 01:59:37,040
and they decided not to pursue it and

3145
01:59:42,310 --> 01:59:38,560
that's that's why because they had

3146
01:59:44,310 --> 01:59:42,320
thousands of potential leakers with this

3147
01:59:46,470 --> 01:59:44,320
you have a couple people so if they

3148
01:59:48,149 --> 01:59:46,480
wanted to find out who the leaker was

3149
01:59:50,070 --> 01:59:48,159
i truly believe that they could that

3150
01:59:51,189 --> 01:59:50,080
they could figure that out if this if

3151
01:59:52,790 --> 01:59:51,199
they were really

3152
01:59:54,070 --> 01:59:52,800
being mindful and controlling this

3153
01:59:56,470 --> 01:59:54,080
information even though it's not

3154
01:59:58,470 --> 01:59:56,480
classified but controlling it

3155
01:59:59,589 --> 01:59:58,480
i don't think it would be that hard

3156
02:00:01,189 --> 01:59:59,599
there's not many people that are going

3157
02:00:03,350 --> 02:00:01,199
to have access to those classified

3158
02:00:06,310 --> 02:00:03,360
briefing slides and yet here they are

3159
02:00:07,589 --> 02:00:06,320
you know on jeremy corbell's blog so if

3160
02:00:10,790 --> 02:00:07,599
they wanted to find out

3161
02:00:13,109 --> 02:00:10,800
on this one my personal opinion would

3162
02:00:13,510 --> 02:00:13,119
say that they could very easily why they

3163
02:00:15,350 --> 02:00:13,520
don't

3164
02:00:16,470 --> 02:00:15,360
i have no idea let's take our break

3165
02:00:17,669 --> 02:00:16,480
right here i guess tonight john

3166
02:00:21,030 --> 02:00:17,679
greenwald

3167
02:00:24,629 --> 02:00:21,040
very fascinating uh month in the world

3168
02:00:26,310 --> 02:00:24,639
of ufos and john always finds himself

3169
02:00:27,350 --> 02:00:26,320
right in the middle of all of it i don't

3170
02:00:29,430 --> 02:00:27,360
know how he does it

3171
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more with john right after this short

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3272
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3274
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3275
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3276
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3277
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3278
02:05:25,430 --> 02:05:22,560
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3279
02:05:27,430 --> 02:05:25,440
tonight john greenwald and i was just of

3280
02:05:29,350 --> 02:05:27,440
the black vault

3281
02:05:30,550 --> 02:05:29,360
and i was just sitting here thinking uh

3282
02:05:34,069 --> 02:05:30,560
during the break

3283
02:05:37,109 --> 02:05:34,079
about how hungry i am and about what

3284
02:05:39,750 --> 02:05:37,119
i am going to eat

3285
02:05:41,669 --> 02:05:39,760
after the show tonight and i'm just

3286
02:05:42,550 --> 02:05:41,679
going back and thinking about john's

3287
02:05:45,030 --> 02:05:42,560
conversation

3288
02:05:48,149 --> 02:05:45,040
uh and that the two of us had before the

3289
02:05:48,790 --> 02:05:48,159
show john how was that wagoo steak oh my

3290
02:05:50,950 --> 02:05:48,800
goodness

3291
02:05:52,310 --> 02:05:50,960
it was delicious it really was i've

3292
02:05:55,030 --> 02:05:52,320
never had one before

3293
02:05:56,709 --> 02:05:55,040
wagyu is all that as a as a present oh

3294
02:05:58,870 --> 02:05:56,719
happy birthday by the way

3295
02:06:01,109 --> 02:05:58,880
happy birthday thank you welcome to the

3296
02:06:03,750 --> 02:06:01,119
club the big 4-0

3297
02:06:04,390 --> 02:06:03,760
and normally people don't talk about

3298
02:06:07,990 --> 02:06:04,400
that uh

3299
02:06:09,430 --> 02:06:08,000
in public uh or at all uh but you were

3300
02:06:12,470 --> 02:06:09,440
you were right up front man

3301
02:06:14,629 --> 02:06:12,480
this is it man the 30s are over yeah

3302
02:06:16,229 --> 02:06:14,639
you know what i i've been around the

3303
02:06:16,790 --> 02:06:16,239
block for a while and people have known

3304
02:06:19,430 --> 02:06:16,800
me through

3305
02:06:20,950 --> 02:06:19,440
teenage years and beyond and you know

3306
02:06:22,069 --> 02:06:20,960
you do the math you can figure out the

3307
02:06:23,990 --> 02:06:22,079
age anyway but i

3308
02:06:25,430 --> 02:06:24,000
you know what i'm not i'm not one of

3309
02:06:27,669 --> 02:06:25,440
those that have the midlife

3310
02:06:29,109 --> 02:06:27,679
crisis at least not yet we'll we'll talk

3311
02:06:31,750 --> 02:06:29,119
again when i hit 5.0

3312
02:06:33,030 --> 02:06:31,760
and we'll see if that changes at all are

3313
02:06:36,069 --> 02:06:33,040
you are you corvette

3314
02:06:37,669 --> 02:06:36,079
are you corvette shopping no i'm

3315
02:06:39,430 --> 02:06:37,679
sporting around in my minivan

3316
02:06:41,270 --> 02:06:39,440
i'm telling you i never wanted to do

3317
02:06:43,270 --> 02:06:41,280
that but with two kids it was the best

3318
02:06:45,589 --> 02:06:43,280
decision i ever made so

3319
02:06:46,629 --> 02:06:45,599
hey you know what i've met 40 head on

3320
02:06:49,510 --> 02:06:46,639
and uh

3321
02:06:50,310 --> 02:06:49,520
we live in interesting times but uh hey

3322
02:06:52,709 --> 02:06:50,320
i'm happy working

3323
02:06:53,830 --> 02:06:52,719
do you feel different no all right i

3324
02:06:55,589 --> 02:06:53,840
really don't no

3325
02:06:57,910 --> 02:06:55,599
i think i'm still recovering from

3326
02:06:58,629 --> 02:06:57,920
saturday we had a night out without kids

3327
02:07:02,470 --> 02:06:58,639
and

3328
02:07:04,709 --> 02:07:02,480
uh

3329
02:07:06,310 --> 02:07:04,719
maybe one or two irish car bombs on top

3330
02:07:07,430 --> 02:07:06,320
of quite a few other things but

3331
02:07:09,189 --> 02:07:07,440
regardless you know

3332
02:07:10,950 --> 02:07:09,199
i think i'm still recovering from now

3333
02:07:11,990 --> 02:07:10,960
we've got a lot to talk about tonight i

3334
02:07:15,189 --> 02:07:12,000
want to swing this back to

3335
02:07:17,910 --> 02:07:15,199
ufos but you guys

3336
02:07:20,390 --> 02:07:17,920
can can i can i reveal some private

3337
02:07:23,430 --> 02:07:20,400
information about your party

3338
02:07:24,830 --> 02:07:23,440
is it okay sure okay

3339
02:07:26,550 --> 02:07:24,840
i don't know where you're going with

3340
02:07:29,910 --> 02:07:26,560
this but sure

3341
02:07:30,790 --> 02:07:29,920
you guys as adults you guys got a party

3342
02:07:33,510 --> 02:07:30,800
bus

3343
02:07:35,430 --> 02:07:33,520
your wife yeah gifted you with a party

3344
02:07:38,069 --> 02:07:35,440
bus how many people

3345
02:07:38,550 --> 02:07:38,079
uh we kept it uh small we had seven

3346
02:07:41,430 --> 02:07:38,560
total

3347
02:07:43,030 --> 02:07:41,440
oh seven oh okay well that's a that's a

3348
02:07:45,189 --> 02:07:43,040
semi-party bus

3349
02:07:46,470 --> 02:07:45,199
did you guys drink on the party bus

3350
02:07:51,109 --> 02:07:46,480
that's what i want to know

3351
02:07:53,350 --> 02:07:51,119
oh yes i believe so from what i remember

3352
02:07:55,030 --> 02:07:53,360
uh we we were we tried to stay coveted

3353
02:07:57,830 --> 02:07:55,040
compliant we obviously have a lot of

3354
02:07:59,910 --> 02:07:57,840
nurses uh in our friend my wife is a she

3355
02:08:02,229 --> 02:07:59,920
supervises a coveted unit so

3356
02:08:03,669 --> 02:08:02,239
uh we have uh people that are working in

3357
02:08:05,910 --> 02:08:03,679
the healthcare industry so we try and

3358
02:08:08,310 --> 02:08:05,920
keep it very tight to those that are

3359
02:08:09,750 --> 02:08:08,320
you know vaccinated and and safe and so

3360
02:08:11,910 --> 02:08:09,760
that's why we kept it really small

3361
02:08:13,189 --> 02:08:11,920
you don't have to be all pc con

3362
02:08:14,950 --> 02:08:13,199
compliant here

3363
02:08:16,629 --> 02:08:14,960
you guys rented a party bus you're

3364
02:08:18,790 --> 02:08:16,639
turning 40 years old you guys

3365
02:08:19,990 --> 02:08:18,800
drank all the way over the hill down the

3366
02:08:22,550 --> 02:08:20,000
hill up through the valley

3367
02:08:24,310 --> 02:08:22,560
over the hill and uh and went and had a

3368
02:08:25,669 --> 02:08:24,320
good time man good for you

3369
02:08:28,229 --> 02:08:25,679
you had to work in that over the hill

3370
02:08:31,830 --> 02:08:28,239
analogy didn't you yes i did

3371
02:08:35,030 --> 02:08:31,840
all right let's happy birthday man

3372
02:08:39,830 --> 02:08:35,040
thank you all right uh

3373
02:08:42,950 --> 02:08:39,840
there not only uh was the video leaked

3374
02:08:43,990 --> 02:08:42,960
but there were a couple of images and i

3375
02:08:47,030 --> 02:08:44,000
want to know what you

3376
02:08:50,069 --> 02:08:47,040
thought of uh

3377
02:08:53,430 --> 02:08:50,079
this came from george knapp uh

3378
02:08:54,790 --> 02:08:53,440
the blimp image

3379
02:08:56,870 --> 02:08:54,800
what went through your mind when you

3380
02:08:58,629 --> 02:08:56,880
first saw it it's very interesting by

3381
02:09:00,310 --> 02:08:58,639
the way that was uh yeah out of all of

3382
02:09:02,629 --> 02:09:00,320
them that to me was the most

3383
02:09:04,310 --> 02:09:02,639
interesting uh you know what it is i

3384
02:09:07,510 --> 02:09:04,320
don't know but uh that

3385
02:09:09,589 --> 02:09:07,520
that out of the three that came out was

3386
02:09:11,109 --> 02:09:09,599
was the most interesting it was the most

3387
02:09:14,390 --> 02:09:11,119
intriguing

3388
02:09:15,910 --> 02:09:14,400
um but but but i don't have an answer of

3389
02:09:17,109 --> 02:09:15,920
what that is it was only intriguing

3390
02:09:19,109 --> 02:09:17,119
because you could see

3391
02:09:20,470 --> 02:09:19,119
you know more shape to it right the

3392
02:09:21,830 --> 02:09:20,480
others were

3393
02:09:23,669 --> 02:09:21,840
a different angle of something we had

3394
02:09:25,350 --> 02:09:23,679
already seen before uh

3395
02:09:27,189 --> 02:09:25,360
debate on whether or not that is or

3396
02:09:28,390 --> 02:09:27,199
isn't a balloon so that wasn't really

3397
02:09:30,950 --> 02:09:28,400
anything new

3398
02:09:33,030 --> 02:09:30,960
the other one was this sphere which kind

3399
02:09:36,550 --> 02:09:33,040
of looked like an out of focus

3400
02:09:37,589 --> 02:09:36,560
something uh a light a you know a planet

3401
02:09:39,830 --> 02:09:37,599
anything could

3402
02:09:40,629 --> 02:09:39,840
could essentially create that type of

3403
02:09:42,229 --> 02:09:40,639
effect

3404
02:09:43,750 --> 02:09:42,239
but that that third you know the blimp

3405
02:09:45,350 --> 02:09:43,760
looking one um

3406
02:09:47,990 --> 02:09:45,360
and i'm only using that as a reference

3407
02:09:49,109 --> 02:09:48,000
but that one was the most intriguing of

3408
02:09:52,390 --> 02:09:49,119
the photographs

3409
02:09:54,229 --> 02:09:52,400
i'm thinking mandalorian i'm going mando

3410
02:09:56,390 --> 02:09:54,239
i i'm not yeah i think mando's a good

3411
02:10:00,310 --> 02:09:56,400
guess is anything i'm going mando

3412
02:10:04,470 --> 02:10:00,320
now uh in the blimp photograph i

3413
02:10:06,470 --> 02:10:04,480
think george knows something

3414
02:10:07,830 --> 02:10:06,480
for him to go blimp because i wouldn't

3415
02:10:10,950 --> 02:10:07,840
have gone blimp

3416
02:10:11,830 --> 02:10:10,960
uh in seeing that it looked to me that

3417
02:10:15,030 --> 02:10:11,840
there were

3418
02:10:16,390 --> 02:10:15,040
winglets or some type of wings on both

3419
02:10:19,589 --> 02:10:16,400
sides of the craft but

3420
02:10:24,149 --> 02:10:19,599
some blimps have that i i get that um

3421
02:10:27,030 --> 02:10:24,159
but it looked uh i don't know dronish i

3422
02:10:28,310 --> 02:10:27,040
i don't know but i keep thinking that

3423
02:10:30,470 --> 02:10:28,320
might be e.t

3424
02:10:31,830 --> 02:10:30,480
there's that's a very interesting

3425
02:10:34,310 --> 02:10:31,840
photograph

3426
02:10:35,990 --> 02:10:34,320
um i i don't know what to make of it i i

3427
02:10:37,510 --> 02:10:36,000
really don't when you first looked at it

3428
02:10:40,229 --> 02:10:37,520
what went through your mind

3429
02:10:41,990 --> 02:10:40,239
if you took blimp out which is uh

3430
02:10:43,990 --> 02:10:42,000
george's description

3431
02:10:45,430 --> 02:10:44,000
you take blimp out what goes through

3432
02:10:47,589 --> 02:10:45,440
your mind

3433
02:10:48,950 --> 02:10:47,599
i i think i would have went there even

3434
02:10:51,030 --> 02:10:48,960
if george didn't say it

3435
02:10:52,069 --> 02:10:51,040
the the blimp route i mean i i really

3436
02:10:56,870 --> 02:10:52,079
kind of got that

3437
02:10:58,950 --> 02:10:56,880
vibe from it a drone quite possible

3438
02:11:00,790 --> 02:10:58,960
going back to the uap report that's what

3439
02:11:03,350 --> 02:11:00,800
i think we're going to hear a lot of

3440
02:11:04,870 --> 02:11:03,360
and that and that to me is is intriguing

3441
02:11:05,990 --> 02:11:04,880
about some of these things that are

3442
02:11:08,149 --> 02:11:06,000
leaking out like

3443
02:11:09,270 --> 02:11:08,159
or not leaking out but but more being

3444
02:11:11,910 --> 02:11:09,280
talked about

3445
02:11:13,109 --> 02:11:11,920
uh like the uss kid encounters and the

3446
02:11:15,270 --> 02:11:13,119
drone encounters

3447
02:11:16,870 --> 02:11:15,280
the colorado drones was another one that

3448
02:11:17,750 --> 02:11:16,880
just kind of vanished and went away as

3449
02:11:20,950 --> 02:11:17,760
quickly as it came

3450
02:11:22,830 --> 02:11:20,960
on but you see a lot of these again

3451
02:11:23,990 --> 02:11:22,840
very highly referenced as drone

3452
02:11:26,470 --> 02:11:24,000
encounters

3453
02:11:28,149 --> 02:11:26,480
and i think that that's that's a

3454
02:11:30,709 --> 02:11:28,159
military out

3455
02:11:31,430 --> 02:11:30,719
i think that when that when this uap

3456
02:11:33,910 --> 02:11:31,440
report is

3457
02:11:35,030 --> 02:11:33,920
is written uh i think we're going to see

3458
02:11:36,870 --> 02:11:35,040
a lot of the fluffed up

3459
02:11:39,109 --> 02:11:36,880
fluffed up stuff that we already have

3460
02:11:40,069 --> 02:11:39,119
heard about but i think drones are going

3461
02:11:43,030 --> 02:11:40,079
to be

3462
02:11:44,149 --> 02:11:43,040
in it very prevalently and i and what i

3463
02:11:48,069 --> 02:11:44,159
fear

3464
02:11:50,149 --> 02:11:48,079
is that that this type of material

3465
02:11:51,430 --> 02:11:50,159
whether it be identifiable balloons if

3466
02:11:54,149 --> 02:11:51,440
that's the stake they're the

3467
02:11:56,229 --> 02:11:54,159
take they're going to take if that's the

3468
02:11:57,910 --> 02:11:56,239
stance they're going to take excuse me

3469
02:11:59,350 --> 02:11:57,920
if they're going to start talking about

3470
02:12:01,910 --> 02:11:59,360
drones and so on

3471
02:12:03,830 --> 02:12:01,920
that this uap report is not going to

3472
02:12:07,589 --> 02:12:03,840
give us anything intriguing

3473
02:12:09,310 --> 02:12:07,599
but rather give us a condon 2.0

3474
02:12:11,990 --> 02:12:09,320
you know the condon report in the late

3475
02:12:13,270 --> 02:12:12,000
1960s which caused project blue book to

3476
02:12:15,669 --> 02:12:13,280
be cancelled

3477
02:12:17,189 --> 02:12:15,679
after congressional interest former

3478
02:12:19,589 --> 02:12:17,199
government insiders

3479
02:12:21,750 --> 02:12:19,599
scientists all banded together and said

3480
02:12:22,629 --> 02:12:21,760
you guys need to to look at the ufo

3481
02:12:25,750 --> 02:12:22,639
information

3482
02:12:27,990 --> 02:12:25,760
this was around 1966 i believe it was

3483
02:12:29,350 --> 02:12:28,000
and when you juxtaposed that and how

3484
02:12:31,589 --> 02:12:29,360
that played out

3485
02:12:33,109 --> 02:12:31,599
gerald ford before he became president

3486
02:12:35,350 --> 02:12:33,119
was leading the charge

3487
02:12:38,310 --> 02:12:35,360
and he was the one that was advocating

3488
02:12:40,229 --> 02:12:38,320
for more ufo transparency

3489
02:12:42,550 --> 02:12:40,239
more investigations more funding and so

3490
02:12:44,629 --> 02:12:42,560
on and so forth it is almost identical

3491
02:12:47,270 --> 02:12:44,639
to how it is playing out today

3492
02:12:49,270 --> 02:12:47,280
and how it has played out the only wild

3493
02:12:51,430 --> 02:12:49,280
card now is this report

3494
02:12:53,750 --> 02:12:51,440
and back in the late 60s the condon

3495
02:12:57,030 --> 02:12:53,760
report paved the way for them to cancel

3496
02:12:59,430 --> 02:12:57,040
all ufo funding or so they said

3497
02:13:01,270 --> 02:12:59,440
and canceled project blue book and the

3498
02:13:04,229 --> 02:13:01,280
condon report was referenced

3499
02:13:05,910 --> 02:13:04,239
for decades as being that hey look we

3500
02:13:06,950 --> 02:13:05,920
looked into this but nope sorry there's

3501
02:13:09,510 --> 02:13:06,960
nothing there

3502
02:13:10,950 --> 02:13:09,520
i fear that we are setting ourselves up

3503
02:13:12,790 --> 02:13:10,960
for that again

3504
02:13:14,870 --> 02:13:12,800
because of this hype and again to go

3505
02:13:16,149 --> 02:13:14,880
back to that oh is this a disinformation

3506
02:13:19,030 --> 02:13:16,159
campaign

3507
02:13:21,189 --> 02:13:19,040
look at the potential set up here the

3508
02:13:22,629 --> 02:13:21,199
potential for the last two years to

3509
02:13:26,149 --> 02:13:22,639
start setting up

3510
02:13:28,550 --> 02:13:26,159
these cases and encounters and this is

3511
02:13:31,109 --> 02:13:28,560
unidentified and this is we don't know

3512
02:13:32,950 --> 02:13:31,119
what this is and all these rumors and

3513
02:13:34,629 --> 02:13:32,960
explosions of headlines that are

3514
02:13:37,350 --> 02:13:34,639
sensationalized

3515
02:13:38,870 --> 02:13:37,360
imagine that set up and then a report

3516
02:13:39,350 --> 02:13:38,880
comes out and goes you know what now

3517
02:13:41,430 --> 02:13:39,360
that we

3518
02:13:42,790 --> 02:13:41,440
were able to sit down and put a little

3519
02:13:45,189 --> 02:13:42,800
bit of funding in this

3520
02:13:46,950 --> 02:13:45,199
this is what the tic tac was this is

3521
02:13:49,030 --> 02:13:46,960
what that balloon photo was

3522
02:13:50,790 --> 02:13:49,040
this is what that blimp photo was and

3523
02:13:52,229 --> 02:13:50,800
they just tear it all to pieces

3524
02:13:54,550 --> 02:13:52,239
i'm not saying that that's what they're

3525
02:13:55,510 --> 02:13:54,560
gonna do but i'm saying the setup is

3526
02:13:57,629 --> 02:13:55,520
beautiful

3527
02:13:59,270 --> 02:13:57,639
because now they have all this

3528
02:14:02,390 --> 02:13:59,280
sensationalized

3529
02:14:04,709 --> 02:14:02,400
stuff out there that they can easily

3530
02:14:05,990 --> 02:14:04,719
dismiss because a lot of it is made up i

3531
02:14:07,030 --> 02:14:06,000
think anybody who looks at this

3532
02:14:09,750 --> 02:14:07,040
rationally

3533
02:14:10,550 --> 02:14:09,760
can see the middle ground is very much

3534
02:14:12,870 --> 02:14:10,560
made up

3535
02:14:14,069 --> 02:14:12,880
with this reporting we have a couple

3536
02:14:15,990 --> 02:14:14,079
cool elements

3537
02:14:18,470 --> 02:14:16,000
but it's drowned out by all this other

3538
02:14:20,870 --> 02:14:18,480
stuff from a

3539
02:14:23,189 --> 02:14:20,880
again i fall back on this uh saying it

3540
02:14:25,189 --> 02:14:23,199
this way from an intelligence standpoint

3541
02:14:26,229 --> 02:14:25,199
that is a golden set up for them to

3542
02:14:28,149 --> 02:14:26,239
swoop in

3543
02:14:29,109 --> 02:14:28,159
tell marco rubio's committee hey look

3544
02:14:29,990 --> 02:14:29,119
you know whatever you read in the

3545
02:14:32,950 --> 02:14:30,000
headlines

3546
02:14:34,470 --> 02:14:32,960
nah this is how it really is and tear

3547
02:14:38,069 --> 02:14:34,480
all of that apart

3548
02:14:38,870 --> 02:14:38,079
and then in the end ufos goes away for

3549
02:14:42,470 --> 02:14:38,880
another

3550
02:14:46,790 --> 02:14:42,480
three four five decades you are a show

3551
02:14:49,910 --> 02:14:46,800
you're a show you're a show and they're

3552
02:14:53,109 --> 02:14:49,920
oh man and in

3553
02:14:54,310 --> 02:14:53,119
in the drive article i'm going to call

3554
02:14:56,950 --> 02:14:54,320
that a report

3555
02:14:58,550 --> 02:14:56,960
it's more of that than an article the

3556
02:15:01,510 --> 02:14:58,560
the research

3557
02:15:03,589 --> 02:15:01,520
and the foia work and the the way that

3558
02:15:06,790 --> 02:15:03,599
that article was put together

3559
02:15:09,669 --> 02:15:06,800
uh well done and uh

3560
02:15:10,149 --> 02:15:09,679
tyler rogoway's uh you know from the war

3561
02:15:13,030 --> 02:15:10,159
zone

3562
02:15:14,310 --> 02:15:13,040
hit and there is a clear case and i

3563
02:15:17,669 --> 02:15:14,320
think it's

3564
02:15:20,790 --> 02:15:17,679
it's it's only the result of research

3565
02:15:24,069 --> 02:15:20,800
and then you come to the conclusion

3566
02:15:26,629 --> 02:15:24,079
i i'm thinking that the us navy

3567
02:15:27,750 --> 02:15:26,639
was flying drones off of san clemente

3568
02:15:30,870 --> 02:15:27,760
island

3569
02:15:32,069 --> 02:15:30,880
and didn't let the kid and and the

3570
02:15:35,270 --> 02:15:32,079
russell

3571
02:15:38,149 --> 02:15:35,280
know what was going on and there was a

3572
02:15:39,350 --> 02:15:38,159
a breakdown in communication and i think

3573
02:15:42,470 --> 02:15:39,360
ultimately that

3574
02:15:44,709 --> 02:15:42,480
that is exactly what that was

3575
02:15:46,069 --> 02:15:44,719
i i think that that's definitely a

3576
02:15:49,350 --> 02:15:46,079
possibility

3577
02:15:51,750 --> 02:15:49,360
and and that goes into the context of

3578
02:15:53,589 --> 02:15:51,760
telling people the truth but omitting

3579
02:15:55,669 --> 02:15:53,599
the entire truth

3580
02:15:56,870 --> 02:15:55,679
and to the u.s navy maybe they are

3581
02:15:59,510 --> 02:15:56,880
unidentified

3582
02:16:00,229 --> 02:15:59,520
but they're u.s air force and to the u.s

3583
02:16:04,470 --> 02:16:00,239
air force

3584
02:16:06,069 --> 02:16:04,480
they know you look at the paperwork of

3585
02:16:10,310 --> 02:16:06,079
those original

3586
02:16:13,030 --> 02:16:10,320
videos saying drones balloons and uas's

3587
02:16:14,870 --> 02:16:13,040
why does it say that were they just

3588
02:16:16,830 --> 02:16:14,880
higher cleared to understand

3589
02:16:18,229 --> 02:16:16,840
what they were looking at and that

3590
02:16:20,550 --> 02:16:18,239
internally

3591
02:16:22,550 --> 02:16:20,560
that's what he put now i asked luis

3592
02:16:24,790 --> 02:16:22,560
elizondo on my show about it

3593
02:16:26,629 --> 02:16:24,800
and as much as i have found and we have

3594
02:16:28,550 --> 02:16:26,639
both found i'm not speaking for him but

3595
02:16:29,350 --> 02:16:28,560
i think we found a mutual respect for

3596
02:16:31,510 --> 02:16:29,360
each other

3597
02:16:32,790 --> 02:16:31,520
and we have uh understood a little bit

3598
02:16:34,870 --> 02:16:32,800
more about each other

3599
02:16:36,230 --> 02:16:34,880
i still question that you know i still

3600
02:16:38,870 --> 02:16:36,240
question why

3601
02:16:39,990 --> 02:16:38,880
uh dobster was kept in the dark on what

3602
02:16:42,629 --> 02:16:40,000
was really going on

3603
02:16:44,309 --> 02:16:42,639
and that is his stance he felt that the

3604
02:16:47,830 --> 02:16:44,319
navy would eventually

3605
02:16:48,629 --> 02:16:47,840
be asked they knew but dobson was held

3606
02:16:52,070 --> 02:16:48,639
in the dark

3607
02:16:53,349 --> 02:16:52,080
and and uh so that that information was

3608
02:16:56,309 --> 02:16:53,359
just kept from them and

3609
02:16:57,110 --> 02:16:56,319
and i don't see that that would fly uh

3610
02:17:00,389 --> 02:16:57,120
at all

3611
02:17:01,110 --> 02:17:00,399
uh pardon the pun so it does still beg

3612
02:17:04,309 --> 02:17:01,120
the question

3613
02:17:04,950 --> 02:17:04,319
did they know exactly what these are but

3614
02:17:07,190 --> 02:17:04,960
we

3615
02:17:09,349 --> 02:17:07,200
the the to the to the u.s navy they

3616
02:17:11,110 --> 02:17:09,359
didn't they were being tested on

3617
02:17:13,509 --> 02:17:11,120
and if you're going to test top secret

3618
02:17:16,070 --> 02:17:13,519
drone technology or top secret

3619
02:17:17,830 --> 02:17:16,080
something to do it against the most

3620
02:17:18,790 --> 02:17:17,840
powerful navy in the world is the best

3621
02:17:21,669 --> 02:17:18,800
way to do it

3622
02:17:22,790 --> 02:17:21,679
you know i mean that you you can see

3623
02:17:25,910 --> 02:17:22,800
what

3624
02:17:28,469 --> 02:17:25,920
they can understand about it can an f-18

3625
02:17:30,469 --> 02:17:28,479
chase it can ca you know can you

3626
02:17:32,150 --> 02:17:30,479
intercept it if there were weapons on

3627
02:17:34,389 --> 02:17:32,160
board could you fire at it

3628
02:17:35,990 --> 02:17:34,399
all of these interesting coincidences

3629
02:17:37,750 --> 02:17:36,000
all all played out

3630
02:17:39,429 --> 02:17:37,760
but i think a lot of people are ignoring

3631
02:17:40,709 --> 02:17:39,439
that why you know this was a training

3632
02:17:42,469 --> 02:17:40,719
mission it was perfect

3633
02:17:44,469 --> 02:17:42,479
fravor couldn't fire on it even if he

3634
02:17:46,230 --> 02:17:44,479
wanted to so

3635
02:17:48,629 --> 02:17:46,240
when you take into all of that into

3636
02:17:49,509 --> 02:17:48,639
account it was a very safe exercise to

3637
02:17:51,910 --> 02:17:49,519
do

3638
02:17:52,790 --> 02:17:51,920
even though those were kept in the dark

3639
02:17:56,469 --> 02:17:52,800
i often

3640
02:17:58,870 --> 02:17:56,479
cite provable historical record and

3641
02:17:59,830 --> 02:17:58,880
uh and i'll do it very quickly here to

3642
02:18:02,870 --> 02:17:59,840
prove the point

3643
02:18:04,709 --> 02:18:02,880
and going back to area 51. when we

3644
02:18:07,190 --> 02:18:04,719
launched the corona satellite

3645
02:18:08,950 --> 02:18:07,200
uh one of the original spy satellites

3646
02:18:09,830 --> 02:18:08,960
the national reconnaissance was already

3647
02:18:11,750 --> 02:18:09,840
underway

3648
02:18:13,270 --> 02:18:11,760
they had been in existence for decades

3649
02:18:14,230 --> 02:18:13,280
prior to it being officially

3650
02:18:16,870 --> 02:18:14,240
acknowledged

3651
02:18:18,870 --> 02:18:16,880
the cia was involved as well they took

3652
02:18:21,429 --> 02:18:18,880
their intelligence analysts

3653
02:18:23,270 --> 02:18:21,439
and gave them satellite photographs of

3654
02:18:25,750 --> 02:18:23,280
area 51

3655
02:18:27,270 --> 02:18:25,760
and had them analyze what they could see

3656
02:18:29,270 --> 02:18:27,280
but they kept them in the dark

3657
02:18:31,429 --> 02:18:29,280
yeah they kept the blindfolds on yeah it

3658
02:18:34,549 --> 02:18:31,439
was a blind test

3659
02:18:36,709 --> 02:18:34,559
exactly and so we can see with a proven

3660
02:18:38,950 --> 02:18:36,719
history this is what they do it's the

3661
02:18:40,549 --> 02:18:38,960
best way to understand

3662
02:18:42,309 --> 02:18:40,559
because we are the best of the best at

3663
02:18:45,110 --> 02:18:42,319
least that's what we believe

3664
02:18:45,990 --> 02:18:45,120
so why not test ourselves against

3665
02:18:48,070 --> 02:18:46,000
ourselves

3666
02:18:49,990 --> 02:18:48,080
and those those analysts looked at it

3667
02:18:52,870 --> 02:18:50,000
and and tried to determine what was

3668
02:18:54,309 --> 02:18:52,880
going on at area 51 but they had no idea

3669
02:18:55,910 --> 02:18:54,319
it was our own base

3670
02:18:58,230 --> 02:18:55,920
but we had that primer we had the

3671
02:19:00,070 --> 02:18:58,240
rosetta stone

3672
02:19:01,830 --> 02:19:00,080
in the shadows but we knew what was

3673
02:19:04,150 --> 02:19:01,840
going on at area 51.

3674
02:19:06,629 --> 02:19:04,160
so we were able to compare and contrast

3675
02:19:08,870 --> 02:19:06,639
what our analysts could deduce

3676
02:19:10,629 --> 02:19:08,880
but keeping them in the dark and so i

3677
02:19:12,150 --> 02:19:10,639
think we have to look at that history

3678
02:19:12,549 --> 02:19:12,160
and there's there's more examples also

3679
02:19:14,709 --> 02:19:12,559
but

3680
02:19:15,589 --> 02:19:14,719
we have to look at that history and ask

3681
02:19:18,709 --> 02:19:15,599
ourselves

3682
02:19:19,990 --> 02:19:18,719
are we potentially doing this now i do

3683
02:19:21,589 --> 02:19:20,000
believe that there's a phenomena

3684
02:19:23,030 --> 02:19:21,599
out there that they're seeing that they

3685
02:19:24,709 --> 02:19:23,040
can't identify

3686
02:19:26,709 --> 02:19:24,719
but that's what i'm kind of curious is

3687
02:19:29,990 --> 02:19:26,719
if if these elements

3688
02:19:31,750 --> 02:19:30,000
which are explainable are being set up

3689
02:19:33,669 --> 02:19:31,760
and potentially going to be utilized

3690
02:19:36,389 --> 02:19:33,679
here in the next couple of months

3691
02:19:37,509 --> 02:19:36,399
as as to kind of squash the public

3692
02:19:39,349 --> 02:19:37,519
interest

3693
02:19:40,709 --> 02:19:39,359
and because we know when they do that it

3694
02:19:42,469 --> 02:19:40,719
lasts for decades

3695
02:19:44,309 --> 02:19:42,479
and we are potentially setting ourselves

3696
02:19:45,990 --> 02:19:44,319
up for another one and that's why i'm

3697
02:19:48,950 --> 02:19:46,000
wondering if these leaks

3698
02:19:50,230 --> 02:19:48,960
are just seemingly let are are being

3699
02:19:53,110 --> 02:19:50,240
allowed to happen

3700
02:19:54,230 --> 02:19:53,120
or they're just kind of putting a blind

3701
02:19:56,630 --> 02:19:54,240
eye to it because

3702
02:19:57,750 --> 02:19:56,640
it's helping them one of the things that

3703
02:20:00,550 --> 02:19:57,760
uh tyler

3704
02:20:02,309 --> 02:20:00,560
rogoway uh pointed out in this uh

3705
02:20:04,469 --> 02:20:02,319
article the the recent one

3706
02:20:05,910 --> 02:20:04,479
and i've got it up all over social media

3707
02:20:06,630 --> 02:20:05,920
everybody can go and read it it's

3708
02:20:09,510 --> 02:20:06,640
excellent

3709
02:20:09,910 --> 02:20:09,520
but there was one little thing i don't

3710
02:20:13,349 --> 02:20:09,920
think

3711
02:20:15,349 --> 02:20:13,359
tyler uh he's so smart

3712
02:20:16,870 --> 02:20:15,359
but i don't even think he realized the

3713
02:20:18,870 --> 02:20:16,880
significance of this

3714
02:20:21,190 --> 02:20:18,880
but there's a little thing that he put

3715
02:20:22,790 --> 02:20:21,200
in there and that was that the radar

3716
02:20:25,990 --> 02:20:22,800
systems

3717
02:20:30,309 --> 02:20:26,000
um with the nimitz encounter

3718
02:20:32,550 --> 02:20:30,319
were brought online then

3719
02:20:34,070 --> 02:20:32,560
they were just brought online they're

3720
02:20:35,750 --> 02:20:34,080
working out the bugs and the

3721
02:20:36,950 --> 02:20:35,760
communication between the ships and the

3722
02:20:39,270 --> 02:20:36,960
planes and everything else

3723
02:20:40,309 --> 02:20:39,280
yeah it was the most sophisticated radar

3724
02:20:43,110 --> 02:20:40,319
in the world

3725
02:20:44,070 --> 02:20:43,120
um updating the current most

3726
02:20:46,790 --> 02:20:44,080
sophisticated

3727
02:20:48,309 --> 02:20:46,800
radar in the world but they went through

3728
02:20:50,950 --> 02:20:48,319
that at that time and

3729
02:20:51,910 --> 02:20:50,960
anything could have happened and and

3730
02:20:54,150 --> 02:20:51,920
misreadings

3731
02:20:56,830 --> 02:20:54,160
and and the data coming back incorrect

3732
02:20:58,070 --> 02:20:56,840
but that's what was going on during that

3733
02:20:59,590 --> 02:20:58,080
exercise i

3734
02:21:01,110 --> 02:20:59,600
i thought that that was one of the most

3735
02:21:02,630 --> 02:21:01,120
interesting points that tyler could

3736
02:21:05,030 --> 02:21:02,640
bring forward

3737
02:21:05,910 --> 02:21:05,040
yeah and that's where the testing theory

3738
02:21:07,910 --> 02:21:05,920
rings true

3739
02:21:09,750 --> 02:21:07,920
that you do have those elements i think

3740
02:21:12,070 --> 02:21:09,760
uh don't quote me but

3741
02:21:13,429 --> 02:21:12,080
if memory serves he he they had pulled

3742
02:21:15,510 --> 02:21:13,439
some stuff and published some stuff

3743
02:21:16,230 --> 02:21:15,520
about the roosevelt uh encounters as

3744
02:21:17,510 --> 02:21:16,240
well

3745
02:21:20,070 --> 02:21:17,520
that they were testing some new

3746
02:21:21,910 --> 02:21:20,080
equipment so you have those parallels

3747
02:21:23,750 --> 02:21:21,920
you know and including where the

3748
02:21:25,990 --> 02:21:23,760
incidents took place and known

3749
02:21:27,270 --> 02:21:26,000
you know training grounds off the coast

3750
02:21:29,910 --> 02:21:27,280
of san diego

3751
02:21:30,870 --> 02:21:29,920
so when you add all those elements in a

3752
02:21:32,870 --> 02:21:30,880
lot of people

3753
02:21:34,469 --> 02:21:32,880
that are are advocates for these stories

3754
02:21:35,429 --> 02:21:34,479
and and it's okay i'm not saying we have

3755
02:21:37,030 --> 02:21:35,439
the answers

3756
02:21:39,110 --> 02:21:37,040
but those who advocate for these stories

3757
02:21:42,150 --> 02:21:39,120
say well how could fravor

3758
02:21:44,070 --> 02:21:42,160
mistake you know a drone or some kind of

3759
02:21:45,670 --> 02:21:44,080
piece of classified technology

3760
02:21:47,750 --> 02:21:45,680
he was one of the best pilots in the

3761
02:21:50,070 --> 02:21:47,760
world highly trained and so on

3762
02:21:51,349 --> 02:21:50,080
and and with this theory you don't take

3763
02:21:53,270 --> 02:21:51,359
anything away

3764
02:21:54,950 --> 02:21:53,280
from these pilots it doesn't mean

3765
02:21:55,830 --> 02:21:54,960
they're any less educated than you're

3766
02:21:58,389 --> 02:21:55,840
trying to can

3767
02:22:00,469 --> 02:21:58,399
you know uh convince others of no they

3768
02:22:02,950 --> 02:22:00,479
are still the best of the best

3769
02:22:05,190 --> 02:22:02,960
but you don't know what you don't know

3770
02:22:06,950 --> 02:22:05,200
if he's not read into highly classified

3771
02:22:08,950 --> 02:22:06,960
programs or what these drones can or

3772
02:22:11,349 --> 02:22:08,960
can't do or so on and so forth

3773
02:22:13,429 --> 02:22:11,359
he still is the best pilot in the world

3774
02:22:13,750 --> 02:22:13,439
but he just doesn't know that this is

3775
02:22:20,550 --> 02:22:13,760
what

3776
02:22:21,990 --> 02:22:20,560
just because you're the best pilot in

3777
02:22:22,309 --> 02:22:22,000
the world does not mean you read in on

3778
02:22:25,190 --> 02:22:22,319
it

3779
02:22:27,590 --> 02:22:25,200
on everything right plain and simple uh

3780
02:22:30,389 --> 02:22:27,600
if pilots want to argue with me on that

3781
02:22:31,830 --> 02:22:30,399
that's fine but um i would bet money

3782
02:22:32,950 --> 02:22:31,840
that they are not read in on every

3783
02:22:34,389 --> 02:22:32,960
classified program

3784
02:22:36,150 --> 02:22:34,399
and i would bet money that there are

3785
02:22:37,030 --> 02:22:36,160
many facets of their missions that they

3786
02:22:39,590 --> 02:22:37,040
fly

3787
02:22:41,110 --> 02:22:39,600
or the exercises that they take part in

3788
02:22:42,309 --> 02:22:41,120
where they are not read in on every

3789
02:22:44,790 --> 02:22:42,319
single aspect of

3790
02:22:45,349 --> 02:22:44,800
the mission or exercise that's just how

3791
02:22:47,270 --> 02:22:45,359
it works

3792
02:22:48,630 --> 02:22:47,280
with the us military you know there's a

3793
02:22:51,030 --> 02:22:48,640
reason they do that

3794
02:22:51,830 --> 02:22:51,040
they have various objectives and so on

3795
02:22:54,950 --> 02:22:51,840
so

3796
02:22:56,309 --> 02:22:54,960
it's it's a shame that that theory is

3797
02:22:58,790 --> 02:22:56,319
often dismissed

3798
02:22:59,990 --> 02:22:58,800
because i i think that it shouldn't be

3799
02:23:03,030 --> 02:23:00,000
at this point

3800
02:23:04,550 --> 02:23:03,040
and why it shouldn't be is because i

3801
02:23:07,910 --> 02:23:04,560
believe it's being set up

3802
02:23:09,990 --> 02:23:07,920
to be solved and and i i

3803
02:23:11,429 --> 02:23:10,000
i would bet money that this report will

3804
02:23:14,150 --> 02:23:11,439
put some some

3805
02:23:15,590 --> 02:23:14,160
some kind of buttons on some of these

3806
02:23:17,750 --> 02:23:15,600
stories to put them to bed

3807
02:23:19,349 --> 02:23:17,760
or at least attempt to whether or not

3808
02:23:20,790 --> 02:23:19,359
they're successful with it who knows but

3809
02:23:21,830 --> 02:23:20,800
i think that they will attempt to put

3810
02:23:25,349 --> 02:23:21,840
some of it to bed

3811
02:23:27,830 --> 02:23:25,359
well it the this leaked video

3812
02:23:29,190 --> 02:23:27,840
if this is a component and it appears

3813
02:23:31,990 --> 02:23:29,200
that it is

3814
02:23:33,990 --> 02:23:32,000
of the uap task force report being

3815
02:23:37,030 --> 02:23:34,000
prepared for the senate

3816
02:23:40,469 --> 02:23:37,040
then this is drones

3817
02:23:44,230 --> 02:23:40,479
and this is part of the report it is

3818
02:23:47,590 --> 02:23:44,240
probably the the over

3819
02:23:50,230 --> 02:23:47,600
the overarching uh presentation

3820
02:23:52,070 --> 02:23:50,240
is going to be based on drones and and

3821
02:23:53,590 --> 02:23:52,080
that has always been my belief and then

3822
02:23:55,110 --> 02:23:53,600
this leak happened

3823
02:23:57,349 --> 02:23:55,120
but then i want to i want to stay on

3824
02:24:01,510 --> 02:23:57,359
this for a second let's go back

3825
02:24:05,110 --> 02:24:01,520
uh to the drives uh report

3826
02:24:08,309 --> 02:24:05,120
on the is incidences uh back in july

3827
02:24:09,750 --> 02:24:08,319
and august of uh 2019 and once again off

3828
02:24:12,870 --> 02:24:09,760
the coast of uh

3829
02:24:15,910 --> 02:24:12,880
san diego very near san clemente island

3830
02:24:19,270 --> 02:24:15,920
which is the only live-firing

3831
02:24:21,510 --> 02:24:19,280
uh u.s naval area

3832
02:24:22,630 --> 02:24:21,520
in the world right so they you have that

3833
02:24:25,190 --> 02:24:22,640
component

3834
02:24:26,710 --> 02:24:25,200
but there was a very interesting thing

3835
02:24:30,230 --> 02:24:26,720
that nobody wants to

3836
02:24:33,750 --> 02:24:30,240
come out and acknowledge the

3837
02:24:37,190 --> 02:24:33,760
leaked or the foia emails that are

3838
02:24:38,309 --> 02:24:37,200
in the drive clearly state that they

3839
02:24:40,550 --> 02:24:38,319
were looking for

3840
02:24:41,990 --> 02:24:40,560
drones and who could be operating those

3841
02:24:45,750 --> 02:24:42,000
drones in the area

3842
02:24:48,710 --> 02:24:45,760
there was a 50-foot private civilian

3843
02:24:50,710 --> 02:24:48,720
catamaran that was in the area there was

3844
02:24:51,110 --> 02:24:50,720
also two ships there was a cargo ship

3845
02:24:54,150 --> 02:24:51,120
and a

3846
02:24:58,150 --> 02:24:54,160
a fuel tanker in the area

3847
02:25:00,469 --> 02:24:58,160
but they were focused on that catamaran

3848
02:25:01,990 --> 02:25:00,479
and they went back and they contacted

3849
02:25:05,190 --> 02:25:02,000
they got to the catamaran and

3850
02:25:07,270 --> 02:25:05,200
and they were looking for drones being

3851
02:25:09,429 --> 02:25:07,280
operated off of that catamaran

3852
02:25:11,349 --> 02:25:09,439
that was the investigation that was the

3853
02:25:12,550 --> 02:25:11,359
focus they weren't going to the

3854
02:25:16,070 --> 02:25:12,560
catamaran to see

3855
02:25:19,270 --> 02:25:16,080
if they were flying uh alien

3856
02:25:21,670 --> 02:25:19,280
pyramids right they were looking for

3857
02:25:23,270 --> 02:25:21,680
drones and the owner of the catamaran

3858
02:25:26,389 --> 02:25:23,280
said hey we had two drones

3859
02:25:29,510 --> 02:25:26,399
yes we did two two uh

3860
02:25:31,429 --> 02:25:29,520
dri or whatever uh you know two two

3861
02:25:34,550 --> 02:25:31,439
drones but they can't fly

3862
02:25:37,429 --> 02:25:34,560
that far away from our catamaran and

3863
02:25:38,550 --> 02:25:37,439
so they closed down the investigation

3864
02:25:41,670 --> 02:25:38,560
with the catamaran

3865
02:25:42,950 --> 02:25:41,680
but that is where everybody was focused

3866
02:25:45,110 --> 02:25:42,960
not only drones

3867
02:25:46,710 --> 02:25:45,120
but possibly being flown off of this

3868
02:25:48,710 --> 02:25:46,720
private catamaran

3869
02:25:50,830 --> 02:25:48,720
they weren't going to the catamaran

3870
02:25:53,429 --> 02:25:50,840
looking for

3871
02:25:55,270 --> 02:25:53,439
ufos

3872
02:25:57,990 --> 02:25:55,280
yeah and those those are the types of

3873
02:26:00,790 --> 02:25:58,000
cases that i think you will see

3874
02:26:02,389 --> 02:26:00,800
referenced in the uap report i i mean i

3875
02:26:04,469 --> 02:26:02,399
honestly do and and

3876
02:26:06,469 --> 02:26:04,479
why there's a classified annex will

3877
02:26:07,990 --> 02:26:06,479
allow them to put whatever juice they

3878
02:26:09,910 --> 02:26:08,000
want in that

3879
02:26:11,429 --> 02:26:09,920
but to the general public i think the

3880
02:26:15,270 --> 02:26:11,439
mission here is to

3881
02:26:18,950 --> 02:26:15,280
squash the interest that has sprouted

3882
02:26:20,710 --> 02:26:18,960
since december of 2017. and

3883
02:26:23,110 --> 02:26:20,720
there's nowhere there's no denying that

3884
02:26:26,710 --> 02:26:23,120
it has gotten to a point where

3885
02:26:28,870 --> 02:26:26,720
you you give one ounce of a ufo story

3886
02:26:30,710 --> 02:26:28,880
and the mainstream media just blows it

3887
02:26:33,349 --> 02:26:30,720
up to something that it's not

3888
02:26:33,990 --> 02:26:33,359
and and the general public follows right

3889
02:26:36,230 --> 02:26:34,000
along with

3890
02:26:37,910 --> 02:26:36,240
it and you make up that middle ground

3891
02:26:38,550 --> 02:26:37,920
and i'm not trying to beat a dead horse

3892
02:26:40,630 --> 02:26:38,560
there

3893
02:26:41,590 --> 02:26:40,640
but what i'm trying to say is that in

3894
02:26:44,550 --> 02:26:41,600
itself then

3895
02:26:46,630 --> 02:26:44,560
creates a national security concern

3896
02:26:48,630 --> 02:26:46,640
where your general public just believes

3897
02:26:50,550 --> 02:26:48,640
absolutely nothing

3898
02:26:52,309 --> 02:26:50,560
that you are telling them because the

3899
02:26:53,590 --> 02:26:52,319
mainstream media has a completely

3900
02:26:55,830 --> 02:26:53,600
different narrative

3901
02:26:57,910 --> 02:26:55,840
than what is the truth and so this

3902
02:26:59,830 --> 02:26:57,920
report potentially

3903
02:27:01,590 --> 02:26:59,840
just puts out the red carpet for them to

3904
02:27:02,469 --> 02:27:01,600
swoop in and go okay look we've had

3905
02:27:04,950 --> 02:27:02,479
enough

3906
02:27:06,870 --> 02:27:04,960
you know these are the explanations you

3907
02:27:08,070 --> 02:27:06,880
see these types of headlines but we were

3908
02:27:10,309 --> 02:27:08,080
looking for

3909
02:27:11,750 --> 02:27:10,319
uh you know drones from this catamaran

3910
02:27:13,990 --> 02:27:11,760
or whatever the story is

3911
02:27:14,950 --> 02:27:14,000
and that's going to be that fluff that's

3912
02:27:18,070 --> 02:27:14,960
going to be their

3913
02:27:19,270 --> 02:27:18,080
opportunity to then show congress and

3914
02:27:21,990 --> 02:27:19,280
the senate hey

3915
02:27:23,590 --> 02:27:22,000
this stuff isn't worthwhile it could

3916
02:27:26,150 --> 02:27:23,600
also go the other way

3917
02:27:27,750 --> 02:27:26,160
it could just be we don't believe that

3918
02:27:29,030 --> 02:27:27,760
this is aliens but

3919
02:27:31,510 --> 02:27:29,040
you know drones are becoming

3920
02:27:33,590 --> 02:27:31,520
increasingly a huge threat to all of us

3921
02:27:34,790 --> 02:27:33,600
you know they're the size of mosquitoes

3922
02:27:37,750 --> 02:27:34,800
flying around

3923
02:27:38,870 --> 02:27:37,760
at high rates of speed with 8k cameras

3924
02:27:40,710 --> 02:27:38,880
on board you know

3925
02:27:43,030 --> 02:27:40,720
they can do a lot of damage in the sense

3926
02:27:46,070 --> 02:27:43,040
that they can that they can spy

3927
02:27:47,670 --> 02:27:46,080
so they may take the approach of this is

3928
02:27:50,469 --> 02:27:47,680
what we think they are but we can't

3929
02:27:51,349 --> 02:27:50,479
identify them that's what we mean by uap

3930
02:27:53,910 --> 02:27:51,359
that are incur

3931
02:27:56,469 --> 02:27:53,920
that are uh encroaching on our military

3932
02:27:58,870 --> 02:27:56,479
installations and our facilities and our

3933
02:27:59,910 --> 02:27:58,880
uh equipment at sea so we need more

3934
02:28:01,830 --> 02:27:59,920
funding

3935
02:28:03,110 --> 02:28:01,840
and it's quite possible it's all about

3936
02:28:04,950 --> 02:28:03,120
the money that that's

3937
02:28:07,349 --> 02:28:04,960
that could be something that we see as

3938
02:28:08,710 --> 02:28:07,359
well so now they they've already

3939
02:28:10,230 --> 02:28:08,720
said they're going to shut off all

3940
02:28:11,510 --> 02:28:10,240
access to communications and

3941
02:28:13,590 --> 02:28:11,520
investigations

3942
02:28:14,550 --> 02:28:13,600
anything related to uaps is considered

3943
02:28:16,630 --> 02:28:14,560
classified

3944
02:28:18,389 --> 02:28:16,640
so they shut the door on that but they

3945
02:28:19,030 --> 02:28:18,399
could potentially then play up that

3946
02:28:21,670 --> 02:28:19,040
angle

3947
02:28:23,429 --> 02:28:21,680
where drones becomes a huge concern and

3948
02:28:24,070 --> 02:28:23,439
they say hey we need more funding for

3949
02:28:28,070 --> 02:28:24,080
this

3950
02:28:30,309 --> 02:28:28,080
potentially

3951
02:28:32,389 --> 02:28:30,319
the chinese the russians or whomever and

3952
02:28:33,990 --> 02:28:32,399
in those classified briefings

3953
02:28:35,590 --> 02:28:34,000
when they have those sound bites that

3954
02:28:37,270 --> 02:28:35,600
say we don't think it's the chinese we

3955
02:28:39,110 --> 02:28:37,280
don't think it's the russians

3956
02:28:40,550 --> 02:28:39,120
well that could be all part of the game

3957
02:28:42,790 --> 02:28:40,560
because the classified

3958
02:28:44,070 --> 02:28:42,800
aspect of this is the positive

3959
02:28:46,469 --> 02:28:44,080
identification

3960
02:28:47,270 --> 02:28:46,479
of them being chinese or of them being

3961
02:28:49,670 --> 02:28:47,280
russian

3962
02:28:50,309 --> 02:28:49,680
that is also a possibility hate to say

3963
02:28:53,110 --> 02:28:50,319
it but

3964
02:28:55,110 --> 02:28:53,120
that is that is potentially the truth oh

3965
02:28:56,790 --> 02:28:55,120
much scarier than e.t

3966
02:28:58,230 --> 02:28:56,800
as a matter of fact i'd rather have it

3967
02:29:00,870 --> 02:28:58,240
be e.t

3968
02:29:01,270 --> 02:29:00,880
but there's uh another aspect to this

3969
02:29:06,070 --> 02:29:01,280
and

3970
02:29:12,870 --> 02:29:09,510
there is the possibility that a russian

3971
02:29:15,110 --> 02:29:12,880
or chinese submarine was parked out

3972
02:29:17,910 --> 02:29:15,120
there in international waters

3973
02:29:19,670 --> 02:29:17,920
and released these drones uh over the

3974
02:29:22,950 --> 02:29:19,680
russell and the kid

3975
02:29:24,710 --> 02:29:22,960
right okay and is that possible that's

3976
02:29:27,990 --> 02:29:24,720
entirely possible

3977
02:29:31,830 --> 02:29:28,000
a hundred percent but i don't think that

3978
02:29:33,750 --> 02:29:31,840
russian or chinese drones or whoever

3979
02:29:34,870 --> 02:29:33,760
else has a submarine that could get

3980
02:29:38,150 --> 02:29:34,880
close to us

3981
02:29:42,389 --> 02:29:38,160
the uk i don't know um

3982
02:29:45,590 --> 02:29:42,399
uh the israelis but would they have

3983
02:29:47,910 --> 02:29:45,600
aircraft flashing aircraft lights

3984
02:29:50,710 --> 02:29:47,920
if if the russians are surfacing if the

3985
02:29:52,550 --> 02:29:50,720
chinese are surfacing they wouldn't

3986
02:29:54,230 --> 02:29:52,560
go that route would they they wouldn't

3987
02:29:56,469 --> 02:29:54,240
let us know that they would

3988
02:29:57,510 --> 02:29:56,479
that they were there in in that kind of

3989
02:30:00,550 --> 02:29:57,520
fashion

3990
02:30:02,550 --> 02:30:00,560
so that kind of discounts that and

3991
02:30:04,790 --> 02:30:02,560
forces me into thinking

3992
02:30:07,030 --> 02:30:04,800
this was this was the united states navy

3993
02:30:08,950 --> 02:30:07,040
this was the air force flying drones off

3994
02:30:12,389 --> 02:30:08,960
of san clemente island

3995
02:30:13,590 --> 02:30:12,399
with uh identifiable flashing aircraft

3996
02:30:15,429 --> 02:30:13,600
lights on it

3997
02:30:17,030 --> 02:30:15,439
you know if you're attributing that to

3998
02:30:18,469 --> 02:30:17,040
specifically the what we'll call the

3999
02:30:21,190 --> 02:30:18,479
pyramid footage

4000
02:30:23,270 --> 02:30:21,200
yes yes video no you're absolutely right

4001
02:30:24,389 --> 02:30:23,280
there i don't think that a spy drone for

4002
02:30:27,510 --> 02:30:24,399
another country

4003
02:30:29,110 --> 02:30:27,520
is gonna have faa compliancy

4004
02:30:30,710 --> 02:30:29,120
in the forefront of their mission

4005
02:30:32,230 --> 02:30:30,720
standard so uh

4006
02:30:34,469 --> 02:30:32,240
yeah that that i think could be

4007
02:30:36,150 --> 02:30:34,479
discounted there and i think mick west

4008
02:30:38,630 --> 02:30:36,160
also brought up an excellent point that

4009
02:30:39,429 --> 02:30:38,640
you're in a very high traffic commercial

4010
02:30:42,150 --> 02:30:39,439
area of

4011
02:30:43,590 --> 02:30:42,160
lax and you know orange county airport

4012
02:30:46,630 --> 02:30:43,600
all the the big airports

4013
02:30:50,389 --> 02:30:46,640
john wayne and san diego and yeah

4014
02:30:53,190 --> 02:30:50,399
and so to that end um and

4015
02:30:54,389 --> 02:30:53,200
both uh the drive and the war zone

4016
02:30:57,590 --> 02:30:54,399
pointed this out

4017
02:30:59,349 --> 02:30:57,600
in their articles and reports in that

4018
02:31:02,150 --> 02:30:59,359
between san clemente island

4019
02:31:04,469 --> 02:31:02,160
and in san diego which is the biggest

4020
02:31:08,070 --> 02:31:04,479
naval installation on the west coast

4021
02:31:08,950 --> 02:31:08,080
if not the world between san clemente

4022
02:31:12,630 --> 02:31:08,960
island

4023
02:31:15,830 --> 02:31:12,640
lax and uh pendleton

4024
02:31:17,670 --> 02:31:15,840
there is active radar monitoring

4025
02:31:19,349 --> 02:31:17,680
the most sophisticated radar in the

4026
02:31:22,870 --> 02:31:19,359
world right there

4027
02:31:25,910 --> 02:31:22,880
in that section of the united states and

4028
02:31:28,469 --> 02:31:25,920
they know exactly what was in the air

4029
02:31:29,510 --> 02:31:28,479
they have to there's no way that that

4030
02:31:32,630 --> 02:31:29,520
sophisticated

4031
02:31:35,429 --> 02:31:32,640
uh radar system doesn't know

4032
02:31:37,349 --> 02:31:35,439
it's an impossibility now there could be

4033
02:31:40,630 --> 02:31:37,359
a breakdown in communication

4034
02:31:43,990 --> 02:31:40,640
but everybody is monitoring uh

4035
02:31:45,670 --> 02:31:44,000
the airspace there it's

4036
02:31:47,510 --> 02:31:45,680
it's mind-boggling to think that they

4037
02:31:49,670 --> 02:31:47,520
wouldn't have a positive id

4038
02:31:52,469 --> 02:31:49,680
even if it was e.t you know i mean

4039
02:31:54,389 --> 02:31:52,479
they've got eyes and ears everywhere

4040
02:31:55,990 --> 02:31:54,399
uh you know for them to say it's

4041
02:31:59,510 --> 02:31:56,000
unidentified as laughable

4042
02:32:01,190 --> 02:31:59,520
on on multiple fronts which which

4043
02:32:03,110 --> 02:32:01,200
really then just goes back to the

4044
02:32:05,910 --> 02:32:03,120
question are we being told

4045
02:32:07,910 --> 02:32:05,920
the truth and the full truth and i know

4046
02:32:10,389 --> 02:32:07,920
that that's a laughable question because

4047
02:32:13,910 --> 02:32:10,399
obviously they're not telling us that

4048
02:32:16,309 --> 02:32:13,920
but it's so easy to spin a narrative

4049
02:32:17,429 --> 02:32:16,319
simply by telling the truth but omitting

4050
02:32:19,190 --> 02:32:17,439
all of the facts

4051
02:32:21,990 --> 02:32:19,200
right and you can totally change the

4052
02:32:23,830 --> 02:32:22,000
story and that to me is the fascinating

4053
02:32:25,830 --> 02:32:23,840
aspect of this but also the frustrating

4054
02:32:28,469 --> 02:32:25,840
one that that is potentially

4055
02:32:30,070 --> 02:32:28,479
what they're doing and playing word

4056
02:32:31,990 --> 02:32:30,080
games and you look into how they

4057
02:32:33,830 --> 02:32:32,000
structure their pentagon statements and

4058
02:32:36,950 --> 02:32:33,840
this and that and

4059
02:32:39,830 --> 02:32:36,960
it's very hard to figure out who or what

4060
02:32:41,270 --> 02:32:39,840
to believe and you know part of me wants

4061
02:32:43,190 --> 02:32:41,280
to believe those

4062
02:32:44,950 --> 02:32:43,200
government insiders that then come out

4063
02:32:47,110 --> 02:32:44,960
and have their stories to tell

4064
02:32:49,190 --> 02:32:47,120
other times you talk to spokespeople you

4065
02:32:51,510 --> 02:32:49,200
want to believe what they're saying

4066
02:32:52,550 --> 02:32:51,520
but but you can catch all of them in

4067
02:32:56,630 --> 02:32:52,560
these myths true

4068
02:32:57,990 --> 02:32:56,640
mistruths and and omitting of facts and

4069
02:32:59,750 --> 02:32:58,000
no we can't go there because it's

4070
02:33:01,830 --> 02:32:59,760
classified or no we're not going to talk

4071
02:33:04,230 --> 02:33:01,840
about this or no comment or

4072
02:33:05,990 --> 02:33:04,240
whatever it might be that's the

4073
02:33:09,349 --> 02:33:06,000
frustrating part of all of this is

4074
02:33:11,990 --> 02:33:09,359
that no one can be fully truthful by

4075
02:33:12,950 --> 02:33:12,000
all of their own admissions every side

4076
02:33:14,870 --> 02:33:12,960
of this debate

4077
02:33:16,150 --> 02:33:14,880
those that actually do have access to

4078
02:33:18,309 --> 02:33:16,160
the answers

4079
02:33:20,389 --> 02:33:18,319
cannot tell you the full story and

4080
02:33:21,910 --> 02:33:20,399
that's that's pretty darn frustrating to

4081
02:33:24,630 --> 02:33:21,920
an investigator

4082
02:33:26,230 --> 02:33:24,640
john thank you for another uh not only

4083
02:33:26,950 --> 02:33:26,240
great conversation another night i'm

4084
02:33:28,150 --> 02:33:26,960
fade about

4085
02:33:30,070 --> 02:33:28,160
fade to black but thank you for

4086
02:33:34,070 --> 02:33:30,080
everything that you do and

4087
02:33:36,950 --> 02:33:34,080
i know that uh you've got a couple of uh

4088
02:33:37,670 --> 02:33:36,960
really big things that are in the works

4089
02:33:42,309 --> 02:33:37,680
and

4090
02:33:45,830 --> 02:33:42,319
this shake out

4091
02:33:47,990 --> 02:33:45,840
and i i'm just i'm i'm on the edge of my

4092
02:33:48,630 --> 02:33:48,000
seat but uh you've got your work cut out

4093
02:33:51,190 --> 02:33:48,640
for you

4094
02:33:52,150 --> 02:33:51,200
and uh i can't wait the next time you're

4095
02:33:55,110 --> 02:33:52,160
on the show

4096
02:33:56,790 --> 02:33:55,120
is going to be a a pretty big day i

4097
02:33:57,590 --> 02:33:56,800
appreciate that yeah i'm i'm looking

4098
02:33:59,190 --> 02:33:57,600
forward and you'll

4099
02:34:00,550 --> 02:33:59,200
look forward to publishing it finishing

4100
02:34:01,750 --> 02:34:00,560
all of that work and then you'll

4101
02:34:03,429 --> 02:34:01,760
definitely be the

4102
02:34:05,110 --> 02:34:03,439
the first person i call when it's all

4103
02:34:05,750 --> 02:34:05,120
solidified and published out there to

4104
02:34:08,630 --> 02:34:05,760
the world

4105
02:34:09,670 --> 02:34:08,640
i can't wait for it now uh when and

4106
02:34:12,309 --> 02:34:09,680
where

4107
02:34:13,510 --> 02:34:12,319
uh can everybody go and listen to uh

4108
02:34:15,910 --> 02:34:13,520
your radio show

4109
02:34:17,830 --> 02:34:15,920
and what day of the week do you do it i

4110
02:34:21,110 --> 02:34:17,840
appreciate it it's kind of random

4111
02:34:21,750 --> 02:34:21,120
i don't have any set days where i just

4112
02:34:24,070 --> 02:34:21,760
post

4113
02:34:25,429 --> 02:34:24,080
when stuff happens when news breaks i

4114
02:34:26,469 --> 02:34:25,439
have different types of formats of

4115
02:34:29,510 --> 02:34:26,479
videos

4116
02:34:32,309 --> 02:34:29,520
if you go to theblackvault.com

4117
02:34:33,510 --> 02:34:32,319
live that will bounce you to the channel

4118
02:34:36,150 --> 02:34:33,520
i do live streams

4119
02:34:37,990 --> 02:34:36,160
i do pre-records all sorts of fun stuff

4120
02:34:39,910 --> 02:34:38,000
i just try and have a good time with it

4121
02:34:41,990 --> 02:34:39,920
uh but also be informative so that's

4122
02:34:43,990 --> 02:34:42,000
that's a good way for all the videos

4123
02:34:45,590 --> 02:34:44,000
and then the blackvault.com is the

4124
02:34:47,910 --> 02:34:45,600
roadmap to everything else

4125
02:34:48,950 --> 02:34:47,920
now your two latest books inside the

4126
02:34:51,590 --> 02:34:48,960
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4127
02:34:53,190 --> 02:34:51,600
secrets of the black vault uh are those

4128
02:34:55,670 --> 02:34:53,200
on the website as well

4129
02:34:57,590 --> 02:34:55,680
uh they are yep there's a shop link now

4130
02:34:59,590 --> 02:34:57,600
uh everything's back in stock was kind

4131
02:35:00,950 --> 02:34:59,600
of nice it was a surge in

4132
02:35:02,790 --> 02:35:00,960
order so it kind of went out of stock

4133
02:35:04,309 --> 02:35:02,800
for a little bit uh but i got everything

4134
02:35:05,349 --> 02:35:04,319
back in so that's good

4135
02:35:08,070 --> 02:35:05,359
but yeah everything on the

4136
02:35:09,750 --> 02:35:08,080
blackvault.com you'll see a shop link

4137
02:35:11,670 --> 02:35:09,760
you'll be able to get those books there

4138
02:35:12,150 --> 02:35:11,680
and obviously amazon and barnes and

4139
02:35:13,670 --> 02:35:12,160
noble

4140
02:35:15,750 --> 02:35:13,680
brick and mortar stores carry them all

4141
02:35:17,110 --> 02:35:15,760
as well thank you so much john go hang

4142
02:35:19,030 --> 02:35:17,120
out with your family

4143
02:35:20,550 --> 02:35:19,040
and uh we'll circle back in a day or two

4144
02:35:21,990 --> 02:35:20,560
as usual thank you so much

4145
02:35:23,830 --> 02:35:22,000
appreciate it yeah have a great night

4146
02:35:24,309 --> 02:35:23,840
thanks again you're the best john thank

4147
02:35:28,230 --> 02:35:24,319
you

4148
02:35:30,070 --> 02:35:28,240
this is fade to black theblackvault.com

4149
02:35:33,830 --> 02:35:30,080
you can follow john

4150
02:35:36,030 --> 02:35:33,840
uh john just exited he got out of here

4151
02:35:37,670 --> 02:35:36,040
you can follow john on twitter at

4152
02:35:39,670 --> 02:35:37,680
blackvault.com

4153
02:35:41,429 --> 02:35:39,680
on twitter he's very active on twitter

4154
02:35:43,270 --> 02:35:41,439
and he's been hanging out with the fader

4155
02:35:44,389 --> 02:35:43,280
knots tonight i'm yours jimmy church

4156
02:35:46,469 --> 02:35:44,399
all right i'm going to take a quick

4157
02:35:52,830 --> 02:35:46,479
break and come back i'm going to take

4158
02:35:54,760 --> 02:35:53,990
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4230
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4231
02:39:45,990 --> 02:39:44,319
all right welcome back fade to black i'm

4232
02:39:48,870 --> 02:39:46,000
real jimmy church

4233
02:39:49,429 --> 02:39:48,880
all right i stepped away i'm back uh

4234
02:39:52,469 --> 02:39:49,439
i've

4235
02:39:54,630 --> 02:39:52,479
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4238
02:40:00,150 --> 02:39:57,040
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4239
02:40:03,670 --> 02:40:00,160
what i wanna hear from uh everybody

4240
02:40:07,270 --> 02:40:03,680
as uh uh i wait for the calls to come in

4241
02:40:09,910 --> 02:40:07,280
is what do you think

4242
02:40:10,550 --> 02:40:09,920
about the video that's the first thing

4243
02:40:14,550 --> 02:40:10,560
what

4244
02:40:16,950 --> 02:40:14,560
video and that includes the flashing

4245
02:40:19,429 --> 02:40:16,960
aircraft lights

4246
02:40:20,389 --> 02:40:19,439
what do you think that is and why would

4247
02:40:23,030 --> 02:40:20,399
why would this get

4248
02:40:24,630 --> 02:40:23,040
leaked i don't think that there's

4249
02:40:28,070 --> 02:40:24,640
anything

4250
02:40:29,750 --> 02:40:28,080
of interest in the video okay that's

4251
02:40:31,590 --> 02:40:29,760
that's my take i don't think there's and

4252
02:40:34,790 --> 02:40:31,600
it's just

4253
02:40:37,110 --> 02:40:34,800
it's an aircraft it's a drone it's

4254
02:40:38,469 --> 02:40:37,120
it's got flashing lights on it it was

4255
02:40:41,269 --> 02:40:38,479
filmed by the navy

4256
02:40:41,590 --> 02:40:41,279
okay so what with night vision okay cool

4257
02:40:45,110 --> 02:40:41,600
well

4258
02:40:48,550 --> 02:40:45,120
i mean what's the significance

4259
02:40:49,750 --> 02:40:48,560
of the video it's not e.t it's not alien

4260
02:40:52,070 --> 02:40:49,760
it's not anything off

4261
02:40:52,870 --> 02:40:52,080
you know if it's uh if it's russian or

4262
02:40:55,990 --> 02:40:52,880
chinese

4263
02:40:58,630 --> 02:40:56,000
possible uh just like john uh

4264
02:40:59,269 --> 02:40:58,640
just pointed out uh and thank you john

4265
02:41:01,590 --> 02:40:59,279
what uh

4266
02:41:03,030 --> 02:41:01,600
an excellent conversation tonight if if

4267
02:41:04,469 --> 02:41:03,040
the chinese or the russians are

4268
02:41:06,870 --> 02:41:04,479
launching

4269
02:41:07,910 --> 02:41:06,880
you know spy drones off the coast of san

4270
02:41:10,309 --> 02:41:07,920
diego

4271
02:41:11,190 --> 02:41:10,319
i doubt that they're running aircraft

4272
02:41:13,670 --> 02:41:11,200
lights on it

4273
02:41:16,630 --> 02:41:13,680
for everybody to see and that kind of

4274
02:41:18,790 --> 02:41:16,640
defeats the purpose of a spy drone

4275
02:41:20,710 --> 02:41:18,800
i would think i could be wrong i don't

4276
02:41:23,269 --> 02:41:20,720
know maybe they're testing

4277
02:41:24,070 --> 02:41:23,279
our defenses that's a possibility are

4278
02:41:27,349 --> 02:41:24,080
they looking

4279
02:41:30,630 --> 02:41:27,359
at uh the

4280
02:41:32,630 --> 02:41:30,640
the response and and how the radar is

4281
02:41:33,990 --> 02:41:32,640
responsi uh responding to it are they

4282
02:41:36,790 --> 02:41:34,000
able to

4283
02:41:39,269 --> 02:41:36,800
uh uh key in on all of that are they

4284
02:41:41,429 --> 02:41:39,279
listening to the radio chatter are they

4285
02:41:44,150 --> 02:41:41,439
doing that to see i don't know i don't

4286
02:41:46,710 --> 02:41:44,160
know that's if it's russian or chinese

4287
02:41:47,750 --> 02:41:46,720
i just don't i it doesn't feel that way

4288
02:41:50,230 --> 02:41:47,760
to me

4289
02:41:52,150 --> 02:41:50,240
um i just think it was the navy it was

4290
02:41:53,269 --> 02:41:52,160
the air force maybe it was the marines i

4291
02:41:56,309 --> 02:41:53,279
don't know

4292
02:41:58,710 --> 02:41:56,319
uh but uh that's that's my take

4293
02:42:01,510 --> 02:41:58,720
but what is it that you see in that and

4294
02:42:04,550 --> 02:42:01,520
then the other part of this

4295
02:42:07,590 --> 02:42:04,560
is the uh the blimp image

4296
02:42:10,710 --> 02:42:07,600
i'm very curious about that it's a very

4297
02:42:12,950 --> 02:42:10,720
interesting image uh when

4298
02:42:14,550 --> 02:42:12,960
and i know i spoke about this last week

4299
02:42:18,230 --> 02:42:14,560
when when i first

4300
02:42:21,269 --> 02:42:18,240
saw the image i thought of the x-37b

4301
02:42:24,870 --> 02:42:21,279
um i thought of the space shuttle

4302
02:42:28,790 --> 02:42:24,880
um it had that kind of shape to it

4303
02:42:32,389 --> 02:42:28,800
um i probably wasn't the x-37b

4304
02:42:37,030 --> 02:42:32,399
i don't know how a an f-18

4305
02:42:40,630 --> 02:42:37,040
uh f-18 would be in the flight path

4306
02:42:43,510 --> 02:42:40,640
of the x-37b as it's returning to earth

4307
02:42:43,910 --> 02:42:43,520
that feels strange to me but that's what

4308
02:43:11,429 --> 02:42:43,920
i

4309
02:43:13,269 --> 02:43:11,439
um why would he why would he tag that as

4310
02:43:17,269 --> 02:43:13,279
the blimp

4311
02:43:21,190 --> 02:43:17,279
right why would a blimp a blimp

4312
02:43:24,469 --> 02:43:21,200
a balloon a blimp be a part of the uap

4313
02:43:26,630 --> 02:43:24,479
task force report these are questions

4314
02:43:29,670 --> 02:43:26,640
that we have to ask ourselves

4315
02:43:30,870 --> 02:43:29,680
you know is this just a known object why

4316
02:43:34,309 --> 02:43:30,880
would

4317
02:43:38,150 --> 02:43:34,319
um if it's terrestrial

4318
02:43:40,230 --> 02:43:38,160
why would the chinese or we keep saying

4319
02:43:41,510 --> 02:43:40,240
china and russia but you know those are

4320
02:43:43,590 --> 02:43:41,520
the two

4321
02:43:45,190 --> 02:43:43,600
uh leading air forces out there in the

4322
02:43:47,349 --> 02:43:45,200
world and certainly

4323
02:43:49,510 --> 02:43:47,359
adversarial to the united states why

4324
02:43:51,990 --> 02:43:49,520
would they be flying a blimp off

4325
02:43:52,550 --> 02:43:52,000
oh i i don't know where that was taken

4326
02:43:54,950 --> 02:43:52,560
so

4327
02:43:56,870 --> 02:43:54,960
i don't know but if it's part i don't

4328
02:44:00,230 --> 02:43:56,880
know i don't know the location of it but

4329
02:44:03,190 --> 02:44:00,240
why a blimp slow moving

4330
02:44:04,870 --> 02:44:03,200
blimp flying along at 30 miles an hour

4331
02:44:08,870 --> 02:44:04,880
why would

4332
02:44:11,910 --> 02:44:08,880
idea

4333
02:44:13,110 --> 02:44:11,920
or is that some crazy craft right and

4334
02:44:16,630 --> 02:44:13,120
you look at this that's

4335
02:44:20,309 --> 02:44:16,640
some crazy hypersonic

4336
02:44:24,070 --> 02:44:20,319
situation is it some anti-gravity

4337
02:44:25,830 --> 02:44:24,080
et ship because it it looks crazy

4338
02:44:28,309 --> 02:44:25,840
it does it does but it looks like it's

4339
02:44:30,550 --> 02:44:28,319
got wings

4340
02:44:31,510 --> 02:44:30,560
i mean you see the two wings you know

4341
02:44:33,429 --> 02:44:31,520
you see

4342
02:44:36,150 --> 02:44:33,439
something sticking out of each side

4343
02:44:39,030 --> 02:44:36,160
there's no tail fins that i could see

4344
02:44:39,990 --> 02:44:39,040
uh that kind of eliminates the x-37b it

4345
02:44:43,910 --> 02:44:40,000
doesn't

4346
02:44:46,550 --> 02:44:43,920
mandalarian but

4347
02:44:48,389 --> 02:44:46,560
but what is in that image the other

4348
02:44:52,070 --> 02:44:48,399
image of the sphere

4349
02:44:55,750 --> 02:44:52,080
now we have all seen

4350
02:44:58,469 --> 02:44:55,760
orbs plasma things

4351
02:44:59,349 --> 02:44:58,479
out there i've seen enough of it and

4352
02:45:03,429 --> 02:44:59,359
we've all seen

4353
02:45:06,950 --> 02:45:03,439
images and this doesn't look unlike

4354
02:45:10,469 --> 02:45:06,960
the tens of thousands of images

4355
02:45:13,590 --> 02:45:10,479
that have uh been presented uh by

4356
02:45:16,790 --> 02:45:13,600
uh uh different witnesses to

4357
02:45:19,830 --> 02:45:16,800
events uh all around the world so

4358
02:45:22,710 --> 02:45:19,840
is that anything special i'm not i'm not

4359
02:45:27,110 --> 02:45:22,720
so sure and why would that be part of

4360
02:45:29,110 --> 02:45:27,120
uh the uap task force report hmm

4361
02:45:30,950 --> 02:45:29,120
i just don't know i don't know i don't

4362
02:45:34,469 --> 02:45:30,960
know okay so with

4363
02:45:37,510 --> 02:45:34,479
all of that let's go to the phones

4364
02:45:40,790 --> 02:45:37,520
thousands whoa whoa whoa oh that's me

4365
02:45:44,230 --> 02:45:40,800
oh sorry about that that is

4366
02:45:47,349 --> 02:45:44,240
me live okay yeah you're

4367
02:45:50,630 --> 02:45:47,359
you're live how are you

4368
02:45:52,710 --> 02:45:50,640
is is this carrie yes sir

4369
02:45:54,790 --> 02:45:52,720
carrie in palm springs yeah i cut you

4370
02:45:56,389 --> 02:45:54,800
off there carrie but uh we got you now

4371
02:45:59,590 --> 02:45:56,399
loud and clear

4372
02:46:01,510 --> 02:45:59,600
oh good good good great show tonight man

4373
02:46:02,230 --> 02:46:01,520
i love it when greenwald's on he's got

4374
02:46:05,110 --> 02:46:02,240
the goods

4375
02:46:06,630 --> 02:46:05,120
yeah he does there's no there's no

4376
02:46:10,870 --> 02:46:06,640
question about it he just

4377
02:46:13,910 --> 02:46:10,880
does um but there is uh

4378
02:46:16,309 --> 02:46:13,920
uh there's a lot of um

4379
02:46:17,110 --> 02:46:16,319
uh reporting that i think is excellent

4380
02:46:19,750 --> 02:46:17,120
right now

4381
02:46:20,309 --> 02:46:19,760
he pointed out mick west uh video i

4382
02:46:23,590 --> 02:46:20,319
think that's

4383
02:46:24,389 --> 02:46:23,600
excellent um but uh the article in the

4384
02:46:27,269 --> 02:46:24,399
drive

4385
02:46:28,710 --> 02:46:27,279
uh breaking down everything and and

4386
02:46:31,349 --> 02:46:28,720
tyler rogoway's

4387
02:46:32,230 --> 02:46:31,359
uh the war zone his recent article these

4388
02:46:35,269 --> 02:46:32,240
are great

4389
02:46:37,110 --> 02:46:35,279
pieces for everybody to just go to

4390
02:46:38,469 --> 02:46:37,120
and let's try to figure out all of this

4391
02:46:40,790 --> 02:46:38,479
stuff together

4392
02:46:43,990 --> 02:46:40,800
so there you go what do what do you see

4393
02:46:47,670 --> 02:46:44,000
when you look at that video

4394
02:46:52,230 --> 02:46:47,680
so i see you know smoke

4395
02:46:55,590 --> 02:46:52,240
confusion i think i don't even know

4396
02:46:59,030 --> 02:46:55,600
if the real drones

4397
02:47:02,309 --> 02:46:59,040
uh if they're just maybe fakes

4398
02:47:04,870 --> 02:47:02,319
somehow put up in the sky i'm not really

4399
02:47:07,429 --> 02:47:04,880
sure what's going on there but

4400
02:47:10,110 --> 02:47:07,439
i i really i don't think there are

4401
02:47:13,510 --> 02:47:10,120
russian or chinese i don't think they're

4402
02:47:16,790 --> 02:47:13,520
extraterrestrial i'm not even convinced

4403
02:47:18,830 --> 02:47:16,800
they're real functioning drones i think

4404
02:47:21,910 --> 02:47:18,840
they may be some sort of a

4405
02:47:25,190 --> 02:47:21,920
chill um but

4406
02:47:28,790 --> 02:47:25,200
yeah because we you know

4407
02:47:30,070 --> 02:47:28,800
drone technology is not to

4408
02:47:32,469 --> 02:47:30,080
you know and i don't know the video

4409
02:47:35,910 --> 02:47:32,479
doesn't display their full capabilities

4410
02:47:39,030 --> 02:47:35,920
but current drone technology isn't too

4411
02:47:42,870 --> 02:47:39,040
you know the purported

4412
02:47:45,910 --> 02:47:42,880
tic tac maneuverable you know

4413
02:47:47,349 --> 02:47:45,920
elements so and i don't know if they're

4414
02:47:50,389 --> 02:47:47,359
purporting that these

4415
02:47:52,950 --> 02:47:50,399
triangular drone-like things

4416
02:47:53,590 --> 02:47:52,960
are you know functioning like the tic

4417
02:47:56,469 --> 02:47:53,600
tac but i

4418
02:47:56,790 --> 02:47:56,479
i i don't i'm not buying it's real at

4419
02:48:02,710 --> 02:47:56,800
all

4420
02:48:05,030 --> 02:48:02,720
is when you have other drones out there

4421
02:48:07,750 --> 02:48:05,040
like the predator and these

4422
02:48:09,429 --> 02:48:07,760
uh you know they have uh they have wings

4423
02:48:12,630 --> 02:48:09,439
they're able to stay aloft

4424
02:48:16,230 --> 02:48:12,640
you know for dozens of hours

4425
02:48:19,510 --> 02:48:16,240
um and those would have uh

4426
02:48:21,510 --> 02:48:19,520
uh identifying aircraft lights on them

4427
02:48:23,349 --> 02:48:21,520
that they turn out and turn off right if

4428
02:48:25,429 --> 02:48:23,359
you're flying it over

4429
02:48:26,950 --> 02:48:25,439
uh enemy territory you're not gonna have

4430
02:48:27,830 --> 02:48:26,960
your lights on you're gonna have them

4431
02:48:31,750 --> 02:48:27,840
off

4432
02:48:35,190 --> 02:48:31,760
but um that's the one thing

4433
02:48:38,710 --> 02:48:35,200
um if you have a small drone

4434
02:48:41,429 --> 02:48:38,720
um you know i'm talking something small

4435
02:48:44,550 --> 02:48:41,439
three feet or four feet or whatever are

4436
02:48:48,070 --> 02:48:44,560
you gonna have flashing lights on that

4437
02:48:49,590 --> 02:48:48,080
are you faa competi or if it's military

4438
02:48:50,870 --> 02:48:49,600
i i'm not so sure i don't think it's

4439
02:48:53,429 --> 02:48:50,880
that type of drone

4440
02:48:54,790 --> 02:48:53,439
you know a quadcopter now i don't think

4441
02:48:56,309 --> 02:48:54,800
that's what it is i think it's something

4442
02:48:58,950 --> 02:48:56,319
with wings

4443
02:48:59,990 --> 02:48:58,960
and it's a it's an aircraft you know

4444
02:49:04,150 --> 02:49:00,000
that that is

4445
02:49:07,269 --> 02:49:04,160
used you know unmanned unpiloted

4446
02:49:09,429 --> 02:49:07,279
um that's that's what i'm referring to

4447
02:49:11,190 --> 02:49:09,439
i mean it seems strange it has this like

4448
02:49:14,070 --> 02:49:11,200
futuristic triangular

4449
02:49:14,550 --> 02:49:14,080
shape yet it has faa flashing lights on

4450
02:49:16,630 --> 02:49:14,560
it but

4451
02:49:18,150 --> 02:49:16,640
it's just something that's not fitting

4452
02:49:20,150 --> 02:49:18,160
there that's why i'm not

4453
02:49:21,349 --> 02:49:20,160
buying it fits into any one particular

4454
02:49:24,950 --> 02:49:21,359
category well

4455
02:49:27,110 --> 02:49:24,960
the triangle part if you really look at

4456
02:49:28,710 --> 02:49:27,120
the the video blow it up on your

4457
02:49:31,590 --> 02:49:28,720
computer screen

4458
02:49:32,309 --> 02:49:31,600
go full screen and look at it that's not

4459
02:49:35,670 --> 02:49:32,319
the only

4460
02:49:38,710 --> 02:49:35,680
triangle that's there there's no there's

4461
02:49:42,389 --> 02:49:38,720
all kinds of uh artifacts

4462
02:49:45,670 --> 02:49:42,399
uh that it's like it's burned into

4463
02:49:49,110 --> 02:49:45,680
uh the the uh the pickup

4464
02:49:51,429 --> 02:49:49,120
there on on the camera and you can see

4465
02:49:53,670 --> 02:49:51,439
him going in both directions

4466
02:49:55,670 --> 02:49:53,680
and they're just like little triangle

4467
02:49:57,670 --> 02:49:55,680
artifacts in the background

4468
02:49:58,870 --> 02:49:57,680
and i mean i just like what is that so

4469
02:50:01,830 --> 02:49:58,880
our is the

4470
02:50:02,710 --> 02:50:01,840
the main green flashing light artifact

4471
02:50:04,710 --> 02:50:02,720
that we're seeing

4472
02:50:06,950 --> 02:50:04,720
is that just something that is digitally

4473
02:50:10,870 --> 02:50:06,960
created whether it's from

4474
02:50:14,550 --> 02:50:10,880
uh a triangle shape uh um

4475
02:50:17,349 --> 02:50:14,560
uh len or the um oh whatever

4476
02:50:19,429 --> 02:50:17,359
mick west calls it i can't remember but

4477
02:50:21,670 --> 02:50:19,439
uh but there's all kinds of them

4478
02:50:23,110 --> 02:50:21,680
in the video and i just thought well

4479
02:50:26,389 --> 02:50:23,120
what is that

4480
02:50:29,590 --> 02:50:26,399
they're flying there nobody mentions

4481
02:50:32,950 --> 02:50:29,600
that in in the reports that there were

4482
02:50:34,309 --> 02:50:32,960
you know 15 or 20 flying all over in

4483
02:50:36,630 --> 02:50:34,319
both direct no

4484
02:50:37,510 --> 02:50:36,640
it's only the one so i don't know i

4485
02:50:40,309 --> 02:50:37,520
don't know carrie

4486
02:50:43,110 --> 02:50:40,319
i i really don't i i think it just i we

4487
02:50:45,910 --> 02:50:43,120
can't really pigeonhole it in one

4488
02:50:46,309 --> 02:50:45,920
specific category i i don't even believe

4489
02:50:49,349 --> 02:50:46,319
it's

4490
02:50:50,389 --> 02:50:49,359
the real period that's my take if you're

4491
02:50:53,510 --> 02:50:50,399
asking okay

4492
02:50:55,269 --> 02:50:53,520
well and the other part uh to me and i'm

4493
02:50:56,950 --> 02:50:55,279
gonna try to squeeze in a couple of more

4494
02:50:59,830 --> 02:50:56,960
calls here before the uh

4495
02:51:01,590 --> 02:50:59,840
uh end of the show but the the dead

4496
02:51:04,630 --> 02:51:01,600
giveaway to all of this it's got

4497
02:51:05,269 --> 02:51:04,640
flashing lights on it that's it it's a

4498
02:51:08,389 --> 02:51:05,279
drone

4499
02:51:09,190 --> 02:51:08,399
it's an aircraft that's it who's and

4500
02:51:11,510 --> 02:51:09,200
what and where

4501
02:51:13,429 --> 02:51:11,520
why when okay all right we can we can

4502
02:51:16,790 --> 02:51:13,439
get those questions answered but

4503
02:51:18,870 --> 02:51:16,800
but it's not yeah the manner the leak

4504
02:51:20,309 --> 02:51:18,880
the whole thing it's very suspicious to

4505
02:51:25,269 --> 02:51:20,319
me so i'm not

4506
02:51:30,309 --> 02:51:28,469
i'm no pipe the silver blimp thing

4507
02:51:31,990 --> 02:51:30,319
that too looks like you know it's from

4508
02:51:35,510 --> 02:51:32,000
like a where where'd they get this

4509
02:51:38,790 --> 02:51:35,520
from like a bugs bunny cartoon i mean

4510
02:51:41,990 --> 02:51:38,800
it just looks very suspiciously

4511
02:51:42,309 --> 02:51:42,000
fake to me that's where i'm at there you

4512
02:51:43,990 --> 02:51:42,319
go

4513
02:51:47,910 --> 02:51:44,000
carrie thank you so much we'll see you

4514
02:51:50,309 --> 02:51:47,920
tomorrow night be it tomorrow bye

4515
02:51:51,030 --> 02:51:50,319
fade to black thank you so much carrie

4516
02:51:54,389 --> 02:51:51,040
uh

4517
02:51:57,110 --> 02:51:54,399
she thinks it's all fake isn't that

4518
02:51:57,990 --> 02:51:57,120
interesting um i'm still just going

4519
02:52:02,309 --> 02:51:58,000
aircraft

4520
02:52:05,990 --> 02:52:02,319
next

4521
02:52:08,230 --> 02:52:06,000
hi you're live yes hi this is laura

4522
02:52:09,510 --> 02:52:08,240
i've called in before and i'm going to

4523
02:52:11,030 --> 02:52:09,520
try and make this fast because i know

4524
02:52:13,030 --> 02:52:11,040
you don't have a lot of time

4525
02:52:14,870 --> 02:52:13,040
uh years ago chris medina did a reading

4526
02:52:16,230 --> 02:52:14,880
for me when i saw my first ufo

4527
02:52:18,150 --> 02:52:16,240
he said get ready you're going to see

4528
02:52:18,790 --> 02:52:18,160
more of this they're trying to open you

4529
02:52:23,670 --> 02:52:18,800
up

4530
02:52:25,349 --> 02:52:23,680
actually went in the backyard and i put

4531
02:52:26,070 --> 02:52:25,359
my hands up in the air and i called one

4532
02:52:29,110 --> 02:52:26,080
in

4533
02:52:31,349 --> 02:52:29,120
got a psychic connection with it they

4534
02:52:33,269 --> 02:52:31,359
got i i came on your show and i did

4535
02:52:35,750 --> 02:52:33,279
explain a lot of what happened

4536
02:52:37,910 --> 02:52:35,760
since then i i get upset when i watch

4537
02:52:39,750 --> 02:52:37,920
the news because i see the tic tac and i

4538
02:52:42,950 --> 02:52:39,760
called in and i said i explained what

4539
02:52:45,590 --> 02:52:42,960
that was they were just sampling water

4540
02:52:46,630 --> 02:52:45,600
in molecules in the water and in the air

4541
02:52:49,590 --> 02:52:46,640
atmosphere

4542
02:52:50,389 --> 02:52:49,600
um the air and i decided to call tonight

4543
02:52:52,870 --> 02:52:50,399
because

4544
02:52:54,150 --> 02:52:52,880
i the arrowhead that they're calling the

4545
02:52:57,190 --> 02:52:54,160
acorn

4546
02:53:00,469 --> 02:52:57,200
that was in the north sky it's non-human

4547
02:53:01,429 --> 02:53:00,479
it's not piloted by any beings uh humans

4548
02:53:03,910 --> 02:53:01,439
aren't able to move

4549
02:53:05,110 --> 02:53:03,920
vehicles this way it's old old old

4550
02:53:07,110 --> 02:53:05,120
technology

4551
02:53:09,510 --> 02:53:07,120
it was supposed to be shielded

4552
02:53:12,389 --> 02:53:09,520
mechanically something was wrong with it

4553
02:53:13,030 --> 02:53:12,399
um it's remotely driven not piloted it

4554
02:53:15,910 --> 02:53:13,040
was on

4555
02:53:17,510 --> 02:53:15,920
it was like recaptured it went up into

4556
02:53:18,950 --> 02:53:17,520
the air and out of sight

4557
02:53:21,110 --> 02:53:18,960
they called this back to wherever

4558
02:53:23,110 --> 02:53:21,120
they're from and we asked why they're

4559
02:53:25,590 --> 02:53:23,120
there and they said

4560
02:53:27,510 --> 02:53:25,600
they're nasty they were causing head

4561
02:53:29,349 --> 02:53:27,520
pain and confusion

4562
02:53:31,429 --> 02:53:29,359
they said it's not coming back we

4563
02:53:33,590 --> 02:53:31,439
shouldn't be messing with this

4564
02:53:35,110 --> 02:53:33,600
it has nothing to do with us they're not

4565
02:53:37,990 --> 02:53:35,120
happy that this was seen

4566
02:53:39,830 --> 02:53:38,000
it was a failure on their part and they

4567
02:53:42,150 --> 02:53:39,840
were behind a panel and a ship

4568
02:53:43,190 --> 02:53:42,160
chest up with a light bluish gray light

4569
02:53:46,230 --> 02:53:43,200
around them

4570
02:53:47,590 --> 02:53:46,240
it was actually pretty but because they

4571
02:53:49,349 --> 02:53:47,600
were kind of nasty

4572
02:53:51,510 --> 02:53:49,359
they weren't like the tic tac ones so

4573
02:53:53,110 --> 02:53:51,520
they're different entities

4574
02:53:55,269 --> 02:53:53,120
and i just thought i should get that out

4575
02:53:58,870 --> 02:53:55,279
there for everybody because

4576
02:54:01,190 --> 02:53:58,880
pam coronado who um is a famous psychic

4577
02:54:02,230 --> 02:54:01,200
recently i had a free drawing with her

4578
02:54:04,790 --> 02:54:02,240
in january

4579
02:54:05,990 --> 02:54:04,800
and she said the council came forward

4580
02:54:08,389 --> 02:54:06,000
and they said i'm supposed to

4581
02:54:10,870 --> 02:54:08,399
share each information with people and

4582
02:54:13,910 --> 02:54:10,880
it's been very difficult because it's so

4583
02:54:16,870 --> 02:54:13,920
hard to tell everybody this and explain

4584
02:54:19,030 --> 02:54:16,880
because it's outlandish and you know but

4585
02:54:20,070 --> 02:54:19,040
this is my truth and i thought you guys

4586
02:54:22,469 --> 02:54:20,080
should all hear it

4587
02:54:24,790 --> 02:54:22,479
thank you laura and this is it's it's

4588
02:54:27,349 --> 02:54:24,800
it's all good

4589
02:54:29,110 --> 02:54:27,359
an old friend of mine uh tweeted out the

4590
02:54:30,710 --> 02:54:29,120
other day and some of you may have seen

4591
02:54:32,790 --> 02:54:30,720
i think it was yesterday lisa

4592
02:54:34,150 --> 02:54:32,800
she said you know what's going on you

4593
02:54:36,070 --> 02:54:34,160
know what's going on is e.t

4594
02:54:37,349 --> 02:54:36,080
getting more advanced is there jimmy

4595
02:54:38,070 --> 02:54:37,359
what can you tell me this is somebody

4596
02:54:41,750 --> 02:54:38,080
i've known for

4597
02:54:44,389 --> 02:54:41,760
35 years right and i said look i

4598
02:54:46,070 --> 02:54:44,399
i think something is going on there's

4599
02:54:49,110 --> 02:54:46,080
something about to break and i

4600
02:54:52,150 --> 02:54:49,120
do believe that uh et

4601
02:54:53,510 --> 02:54:52,160
is is advancing just like we are

4602
02:54:55,750 --> 02:54:53,520
you know and i'm talking about with

4603
02:54:57,190 --> 02:54:55,760
technology so things are different today

4604
02:54:58,950 --> 02:54:57,200
than they've ever been

4605
02:55:00,309 --> 02:54:58,960
laura thinks they're making a lot yeah

4606
02:55:01,510 --> 02:55:00,319
yeah electrical they're making a lot of

4607
02:55:03,990 --> 02:55:01,520
contact and people are

4608
02:55:05,349 --> 02:55:04,000
um having a lot of downloads and shaking

4609
02:55:06,309 --> 02:55:05,359
in their bodies we've been seeing a lot

4610
02:55:07,510 --> 02:55:06,319
of that lately

4611
02:55:09,429 --> 02:55:07,520
i have a lot of friends that are

4612
02:55:10,469 --> 02:55:09,439
experiencing and we're having that

4613
02:55:11,910 --> 02:55:10,479
happen so

4614
02:55:14,309 --> 02:55:11,920
just thought i'd share i'm on richard

4615
02:55:15,910 --> 02:55:14,319
dolan's experiencer group too so

4616
02:55:19,110 --> 02:55:15,920
thank you so much lord don't be a

4617
02:55:22,070 --> 02:55:19,120
stranger all right okay thanks spike

4618
02:55:22,469 --> 02:55:22,080
and i haven't heard uh chris medina's

4619
02:55:25,190 --> 02:55:22,479
name

4620
02:55:27,190 --> 02:55:25,200
in a long time i wonder how he's doing

4621
02:55:27,830 --> 02:55:27,200
so uh there you go man i think i need to

4622
02:55:32,150 --> 02:55:27,840
reach out

4623
02:55:35,190 --> 02:55:32,160
have left do i have time for

4624
02:55:37,429 --> 02:55:35,200
one more call let's see hi you're live

4625
02:55:39,990 --> 02:55:37,439
i'm fade to black who's calling

4626
02:55:41,269 --> 02:55:40,000
jimmy church it's it's uh bradley from

4627
02:55:43,349 --> 02:55:41,279
kalamazoo michigan how you doing

4628
02:55:44,790 --> 02:55:43,359
hey bradley how are you from townsend

4629
02:55:48,230 --> 02:55:44,800
michigan

4630
02:55:49,670 --> 02:55:48,240
i am just andy i um actually wasn't

4631
02:55:50,950 --> 02:55:49,680
listening to the show i just saw your

4632
02:55:54,630 --> 02:55:50,960
tweets on twitter

4633
02:55:56,710 --> 02:55:54,640
and i wanted to uh run something by you

4634
02:55:58,070 --> 02:55:56,720
and also thank you for having barrett

4635
02:56:01,750 --> 02:55:58,080
brown on a few years ago

4636
02:56:04,389 --> 02:56:01,760
oh man bears barrett's the bomb i mean

4637
02:56:05,830 --> 02:56:04,399
you know what i love him i i gotta call

4638
02:56:07,590 --> 02:56:05,840
barrett i gotta call bear

4639
02:56:09,269 --> 02:56:07,600
let me tell you the best phone calls you

4640
02:56:11,910 --> 02:56:09,279
can ever have in your life

4641
02:56:13,429 --> 02:56:11,920
are with barrett brown and you can take

4642
02:56:18,710 --> 02:56:13,439
that to the bank

4643
02:56:20,790 --> 02:56:18,720
he's like he's like jimmy i'm going to

4644
02:56:22,389 --> 02:56:20,800
keep it clean tonight i i promise you

4645
02:56:26,550 --> 02:56:22,399
i'm like whatever barrett

4646
02:56:30,469 --> 02:56:26,560
okay so uh what's on your mind bradley

4647
02:56:32,550 --> 02:56:30,479
i um well i've been in the ufo thing for

4648
02:56:33,670 --> 02:56:32,560
about 10 years right i saw one in eighth

4649
02:56:35,510 --> 02:56:33,680
grade

4650
02:56:36,950 --> 02:56:35,520
and then i just got really into it i'm

4651
02:56:39,590 --> 02:56:36,960
currently 26

4652
02:56:40,230 --> 02:56:39,600
i recently made a friend in the ufo

4653
02:56:43,190 --> 02:56:40,240
community

4654
02:56:44,150 --> 02:56:43,200
who has kind of like insider like kind

4655
02:56:47,269 --> 02:56:44,160
of secrets

4656
02:56:47,910 --> 02:56:47,279
but like not like the area 51 stuff just

4657
02:56:51,110 --> 02:56:47,920
like

4658
02:56:53,590 --> 02:56:51,120
you know and i was wondering

4659
02:56:54,710 --> 02:56:53,600
apparently that is a very prevalent

4660
02:56:56,870 --> 02:56:54,720
thing in the community

4661
02:56:58,870 --> 02:56:56,880
the amount of secrets that people have

4662
02:56:59,830 --> 02:56:58,880
and i was wondering like what is to be

4663
02:57:01,910 --> 02:56:59,840
done about that

4664
02:57:03,110 --> 02:57:01,920
like how do we move forward like where

4665
02:57:06,230 --> 02:57:03,120
how can we actually make

4666
02:57:09,269 --> 02:57:06,240
progress well man that's it's an

4667
02:57:12,469 --> 02:57:09,279
excellent question but it's also the

4668
02:57:16,150 --> 02:57:12,479
million dollar question yes look

4669
02:57:18,790 --> 02:57:16,160
i i i don't have this is

4670
02:57:21,349 --> 02:57:18,800
look you just said the best thing you

4671
02:57:23,269 --> 02:57:21,359
could possibly say

4672
02:57:24,469 --> 02:57:23,279
that is you had a sighting in eighth

4673
02:57:26,630 --> 02:57:24,479
grade

4674
02:57:27,990 --> 02:57:26,640
that's that that right there that's all

4675
02:57:31,269 --> 02:57:28,000
you need to know

4676
02:57:34,469 --> 02:57:31,279
and it's the same thing for me i've

4677
02:57:37,030 --> 02:57:34,479
seen what i've seen right i

4678
02:57:38,710 --> 02:57:37,040
i don't have all the answers but i i i

4679
02:57:41,030 --> 02:57:38,720
don't i don't know if anybody

4680
02:57:42,230 --> 02:57:41,040
does i don't know if anybody has any

4681
02:57:43,910 --> 02:57:42,240
secrets

4682
02:57:47,190 --> 02:57:43,920
i mean i don't know i don't have any

4683
02:57:49,269 --> 02:57:47,200
friends in the nsa or the nro or the dia

4684
02:57:50,389 --> 02:57:49,279
i don't know i'm not implying you do no

4685
02:57:53,830 --> 02:57:50,399
i'm saying

4686
02:57:57,030 --> 02:57:53,840
i don't even know what they know right

4687
02:57:58,389 --> 02:57:57,040
right right right so you know what i

4688
02:58:01,190 --> 02:57:58,399
only know what i've seen

4689
02:58:01,990 --> 02:58:01,200
you know what you've seen how this plays

4690
02:58:04,630 --> 02:58:02,000
out

4691
02:58:06,550 --> 02:58:04,640
uh i think we're in exciting times i do

4692
02:58:09,750 --> 02:58:06,560
i think we all know

4693
02:58:12,950 --> 02:58:09,760
that sooner or later right

4694
02:58:16,630 --> 02:58:12,960
sooner or later we're gonna have

4695
02:58:19,190 --> 02:58:16,640
contact with et over a major

4696
02:58:20,790 --> 02:58:19,200
city and it's going to be seen by

4697
02:58:22,710 --> 02:58:20,800
billions of people

4698
02:58:24,150 --> 02:58:22,720
and then it's going to be or we're going

4699
02:58:25,590 --> 02:58:24,160
to have an alien invasion

4700
02:58:27,269 --> 02:58:25,600
it's going to be independence day i

4701
02:58:30,309 --> 02:58:27,279
don't know but eventually

4702
02:58:33,110 --> 02:58:30,319
that is going to play out

4703
02:58:34,950 --> 02:58:33,120
i just don't know when but i think it's

4704
02:58:36,870 --> 02:58:34,960
i think i think

4705
02:58:38,309 --> 02:58:36,880
i think something is about to happen i

4706
02:58:40,070 --> 02:58:38,319
really do

4707
02:58:41,510 --> 02:58:40,080
i actually i kind of feel that way too i

4708
02:58:43,990 --> 02:58:41,520
was just wondering if like

4709
02:58:47,830 --> 02:58:44,000
we should just sit back or if there's

4710
02:58:50,070 --> 02:58:47,840
stuff we can do uh

4711
02:58:51,030 --> 02:58:50,080
you know what get yourself some night

4712
02:58:53,670 --> 02:58:51,040
vision

4713
02:58:55,510 --> 02:58:53,680
get to get yourself some goggles or find

4714
02:58:57,670 --> 02:58:55,520
a friend that's got them

4715
02:58:59,510 --> 02:58:57,680
and and go and go and hang out and do

4716
02:59:00,950 --> 02:58:59,520
sky watches at night

4717
02:59:02,710 --> 02:59:00,960
that's that's you know what that's the

4718
02:59:04,710 --> 02:59:02,720
best thing to do just go out

4719
02:59:06,950 --> 02:59:04,720
and and have a good time and know that

4720
02:59:08,870 --> 02:59:06,960
there's something strange going on

4721
02:59:10,469 --> 02:59:08,880
when the right but i've already seen it

4722
02:59:13,429 --> 02:59:10,479
well that's what i'm saying

4723
02:59:15,750 --> 02:59:13,439
me too so what do i do i got my night

4724
02:59:16,550 --> 02:59:15,760
vision goggles i go hang out with our et

4725
02:59:19,830 --> 02:59:16,560
brothers

4726
02:59:23,190 --> 02:59:19,840
but until the big event happens

4727
02:59:23,990 --> 02:59:23,200
uh i think we can rest comfortably

4728
02:59:25,910 --> 02:59:24,000
knowing that

4729
02:59:27,429 --> 02:59:25,920
if it was going to be bad something bad

4730
02:59:29,349 --> 02:59:27,439
would have already happened

4731
02:59:31,349 --> 02:59:29,359
i just don't think it's gonna be bad i

4732
02:59:33,830 --> 02:59:31,359
totally agree yeah

4733
02:59:35,269 --> 02:59:33,840
hey bradley i'm not a big fan of the

4734
02:59:35,670 --> 02:59:35,279
threat thing but yeah yeah go ahead go

4735
02:59:37,349 --> 02:59:35,680
ahead

4736
02:59:38,710 --> 02:59:37,359
i'm at the end of the show i gotta run

4737
02:59:41,429 --> 02:59:38,720
credits so i'm gonna say

4738
02:59:42,070 --> 02:59:41,439
thank you for the phone call no worries

4739
02:59:43,990 --> 02:59:42,080
my man

4740
02:59:45,590 --> 02:59:44,000
you have a great night thank you bradley

4741
02:59:48,790 --> 02:59:45,600
yeah you too jimmy church

4742
02:59:50,150 --> 02:59:48,800
right on bradley from townsend michigan

4743
02:59:51,990 --> 02:59:50,160
and with that i got to go straight to

4744
02:59:53,590 --> 02:59:52,000
credits i got to get out of here

4745
02:59:55,590 --> 02:59:53,600
what a great night on the show i want to

4746
02:59:58,389 --> 02:59:55,600
thank john greenwald for again

4747
02:59:59,750 --> 02:59:58,399
bringing his a game he's the absolute

4748
03:00:03,030 --> 02:59:59,760
best tomorrow night

4749
03:00:04,630 --> 03:00:03,040
aaron montgomery vader black's executive

4750
03:00:05,510 --> 03:00:04,640
producers reader murray on shows

4751
03:00:08,630 --> 03:00:05,520
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4752
03:00:10,309 --> 03:00:08,640
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4753
03:00:13,190 --> 03:00:10,319
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4754
03:00:14,710 --> 03:00:13,200
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4755
03:00:17,910 --> 03:00:14,720
music doug aldridge

4756
03:00:20,150 --> 03:00:17,920
intro spaceboy spaceboymusic.com

4757
03:00:21,510 --> 03:00:20,160
faded black is produced by kjcr for the

4758
03:00:26,150 --> 03:00:21,520
game changer network

4759
03:00:28,790 --> 03:00:26,160
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4760
03:00:30,309 --> 03:00:28,800
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4761
03:00:30,790 --> 03:00:30,319
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4762
03:00:33,269 --> 03:00:30,800
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4763
03:00:34,870 --> 03:00:33,279
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4764
03:00:35,590 --> 03:00:34,880
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4765
03:00:37,269 --> 03:00:35,600
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4766
03:00:38,870 --> 03:00:37,279
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4767
03:00:40,870 --> 03:00:38,880
black of the game changer network

4768
03:00:42,870 --> 03:00:40,880
i'm your host jimmy church until

4769
03:00:46,309 --> 03:00:42,880
tomorrow night with aaron montgomery

4770
03:00:54,320 --> 03:00:46,319
i want everybody to be safe

4771
03:01:04,870 --> 03:00:55,010
[Applause]

4772
03:01:04,880 --> 03:01:07,980
is